# Jim Webb to give the Dem's response to Bush's speech

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [January 23, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161 "2007-01-23T22:21:03Z")
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### Author: ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/41 "2007-01-24T19:02:18Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
His only specific domestic policy prescription was the minimum wage increase - did you notice that Bush made no mention of that whatsoever in his speech? - and I’m all for that, of course.  
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Why would you be all for that? Please explain.

Giving raises to some teenagers while eliminating the jobs of others sounds like a lousy way to beat poverty to me, especially when doing something as simple as adjusting the EITC would have a much bigger impact on those minimum wage workers actually in poverty.

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### Author: ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/42 "2007-01-24T19:23:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]  
Jim Webb is my senator, for better or worse, and I don’t think it is too much to ask for better behavior from him. After all, he is supposed to represent me.  
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I don’t see anything in the constitution about Senators having to represent a fantasy world in which one pretends that Bush was being polite and Webb was the one being rude. Could you perhaps cite where in the Constitution that duty is listed?

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/43 "2007-01-24T19:29:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]  
Why would you be all for that? Please explain.

Giving raises to some teenagers while eliminating the jobs of others sounds like a lousy way to beat poverty to me, especially when doing something as simple as adjusting the EITC would have a much bigger impact on those minimum wage workers actually in poverty.  
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Feel free to start a thread on the minimum wage hike if you’re really interested in debating it. I’ll see you there - _after_ I get a response to the question I keep asking you in the ‘message v. messenger’ thread.

In _this_ thread, I meant, “of course” in the sense of “you know where I stand generally, so it won’t surprise you to hear that I favor this.” And I said where I stood on that because **John Mace** asked me, and I did him the courtesy of replying.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/44 "2007-01-24T19:35:03Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
In _this_ thread, I meant, “of course” in the sense of “you know where I stand generally, so it won’t surprise you to hear that I favor this.” And I said where I stood on that because **John Mace** asked me, and I did him the courtesy of replying.  
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I’d like to add, since Mr. \*\*Moto \*\*might not be aware of this, that we just had a very long thread on this subject within the last few weeks, so let’s not rehash that subject again so soon, and in this thread.

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/45 "2007-01-24T20:52:32Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
::applause::  
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Thank you, thank you. My next number is one you might’ve heard:

_MacArthur’s ghost is standing at his post  
And keeping Bush from pulling out.  
The yellowcake was not found in Iraq  
So he’ll look real hard to find it  
With a resolution to bind it  
When we go next door to take it from Iran  
Oh, no!_

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/46 "2007-01-25T19:10:34Z")

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Some are so impressed by Webb’s [response speech](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246178,00.html) that they want him to [run for president or veep in '08.](http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=160126)

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### Author: ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/47 "2007-01-25T19:14:57Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Some are so impressed by Webb’s [response speech](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246178,00.html) that they want him to [run for president or veep in '08.](http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=160126)  
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2008: Attack of the one-term senators!

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### Author: ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-webb-to-give-the-dems-response-to-bushs-speech/389161/48 "2007-01-25T19:25:33Z")

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Oh, dear Og, please no! It was hard enough getting him to the Senate in the first place; let him serve his term!

I’m glad that people like my Senator so much, but I want to keep him in the Senate, not in the White House.

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