# Jimmy Carter's grandson was instrumental in the release of the secret Romney video. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 18, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083 "2012-09-18T17:40:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/1 "2012-09-18T17:40:59Z")
> **[Meet the Press: Inside Takes on the Latest Stories with Kristen Welker](https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press)** > > Follow Kristen Welker as she uncovers breaking news events with the experts on NBCNews.com. Find coverage on the latest in politics, news, business, and more. > [@](#): > > James Carter IV told NBC News in an interview that, starting late last month, he tracked down the source who took the secret Romney video via Twitter – and then in a series of messages encouraged him to release the full tape to Mother Jones magazine. > After emailing his grandfather the magazine’s story about the tape – under the subject, “Huge campaign news,” and calling it “my biggest story yet” – the former president wrote back at 7:16 am Tuesday: “James: This is extraordinary. Congratulations! Papa.” > … > But Carter also confirmed there is a personal side to the backstory of the campaign video: he was especially motivated, he said, because of Romney’s frequent attacks on the presidency of his grandfather, including the GOP candidate’s comparisons to the “weak” foreign policy of Carter and Barack Obama. > “It gets under my skin – mostly the weakness on the foreign policy stuff,” Carter said. “I just think it’s ridiculous. I don’t like criticism of my family.” I have to love this. They talked shit about his grandfather and now they’re paying for it. It’s a different world with the internet. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/2 "2012-09-19T09:39:39Z")
Well played on his part. I wonder when Bush’s daughters will have their rejoinder? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/3 "2012-09-19T10:09:41Z")
Bush who? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/4 "2012-09-19T10:31:55Z")
Who or what is this “Bush” you speak of? The Republicans seem unaware of him. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/5 "2012-09-19T11:37:49Z")
Sweet karma. Republicans simply can’t resist poking Jimmy Carter, and now they’re paying for it. In my opinion, Carter was the most underrated president of the 20th century and history will be kind to him. Republicans love to put their supposed Christian values on display, but they constantly belittle the president who best exemplified the Christian ideal. Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/6 "2012-09-19T11:53:34Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Sweet karma. Republicans simply can’t resist poking Jimmy Carter, and now they’re paying for it. In my opinion, Carter was the most underrated president of the 20th century and history will be kind to him. Republicans love to put their supposed Christian values on display, but they constantly belittle the president who best exemplified the Christian ideal. Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it? I noticed this conservative attitude about Carter, too, and never understood it. When I ask the folks who speak disparagingly about Carter what it is they don’t like about him, they never really have any actual reason. It’s just a vague feeling they can’t articulate with any substance. And, I am too perplexed about why they dislike him so. I always felt he was one of the few president’s we’ve had who walked his talk. Frankly, he’s one of the few overtly religious people that I have much respect for. ---
**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/7 "2012-09-19T12:05:10Z")
Jimmy “Peanuts” Carter was a complete failure. High interest rates, out of control inflation, hostage crisis in Iran, slow economy, energy crisis, failed foreign policy, etc He even gave away the Panama Canal. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/8 "2012-09-19T12:24:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Frankly, he’s one of the few overtly religious people that I have much respect for. I wouldn’t go that far, but it’s clear that he is the real deal: the Christ-like version of Christianity the right-wingers can’t stand. he would have been re-elected easily had not his opponents been secretly dealing with the hostage takers. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/9 "2012-09-19T12:52:20Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > failed foreign policy Just for starters (most of the stuff you list are either out of the President’s direct control, or just flat bias–and I like how you manage to call him “Peanuts” in a thread asking how come rightwingers have this free-floating hatred of the man) how many wars did he start? Was the Peace Accord between Israel and Egypt a good thing or a bad thing? Just graded on that simple scale, if a Republican president had done those two things, you’d be calling him the greatest President since before Washington. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/10 "2012-09-19T13:47:04Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > Jimmy “Peanuts” Carter was a complete failure. Let’s see, 59th out of 820 at the Naval Academy, performed with distinction in the submarine service, Governor of Georgia, managed to get elected President of the United States, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, decades of humanitarian work. Yep, abject failure, there. Maybe you’d like to present your credentials, and we’ll see who has been the bigger success in life, hey? Also, what do you believe you are accomplishing with the incessant name-calling? I understand the knocks Cater gets on the economy and the Iranian Hostage Crisis, as rightly or wrongly, the sitting President ends up owning such things, but seriously: are you arguing that the US has a command economy, directed by the Executive? Are you arguing that would be a desirable thing? Are you saying the ultimate outcome of the hostage crisis, _that the hostages survived and were released_, was a bad thing? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/11 "2012-09-19T13:53:23Z")
He, Chelsea Clinton, Ron Regan and David Eisenhower should form some sort of anti-GOP supergroup. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/12 "2012-09-19T14:49:32Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > I wouldn’t go that far, but it’s clear that he is the real deal: the Christ-like version of Christianity the right-wingers can’t stand. > > he would have been re-elected easily had not his opponents been secretly dealing with the hostage takers. :mad: AHAHAHAHAHAHAx1009723907235907 Seriously. This is a joke right? Pretty sure Carter didn’t win reelection because his base couldn’t stand him; because those outside of his base couldn’t stand him; because he had a struggling economy; and because he was deemed weak in regards to foreign policy. (Plus, I’m 100% sure if Carter were to try to run for president as a Democrat today, the modern day Democratic party would shun him.) ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/13 "2012-09-19T15:54:19Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > (Plus, I’m 100% sure if Carter were to try to run for president as a Democrat today, the modern day Democratic party would shun him.) Explain this in detail if you can. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/14 "2012-09-19T16:16:54Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Explain this in detail if you can. [Automatic disqualifier](http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/30/carter-jesus-would-not-approve-of-abortions/). ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/15 "2012-09-19T16:31:36Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Pretty sure Carter didn’t win reelection because his base couldn’t stand him; because those outside of his base couldn’t stand him; because he had a struggling economy; and because he was deemed weak in regards to foreign policy. Personally, I voted for Reagan in 1980 because Carter made me register for the draft. However, if I had a time machine and could see what his grandson got up to, that might have changed my vote. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/16 "2012-09-19T16:34:21Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > [Automatic disqualifier](http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/30/carter-jesus-would-not-approve-of-abortions/). I have to agree with you on that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/17 "2012-09-19T16:52:15Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > > > I wouldn’t go that far, but it’s clear that he is the real deal: the Christ-like version of Christianity the right-wingers can’t stand. > > > > he would have been re-elected easily had not his opponents been secretly dealing with the hostage takers. :mad: > > AHAHAHAHAHAHAx1009723907235907 > > Seriously. This is a joke right? > [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > [Automatic disqualifier](http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/30/carter-jesus-would-not-approve-of-abortions/). So… It’s a joke that he upheld his own Christian values. But he wouldn’t be re-elected today because he upholds his Christian values? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/18 "2012-09-19T18:14:08Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > [Automatic disqualifier](http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/30/carter-jesus-would-not-approve-of-abortions/). [Here’s an even bigger one.](http://www.rate1st.com/current-mortgage-rates/historical-mortgage-rates/) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/19 "2012-09-19T18:25:24Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > [Here’s an even bigger one.](http://www.rate1st.com/current-mortgage-rates/historical-mortgage-rates/) ZZZZZZZZZZZ. Wake me if you find something interesting. Mortgage rates are hardly within the president’s power. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/20 "2012-09-19T18:54:10Z")
I had the misfortune of living through the Carter administration. It was one failure after another. Carter was so reviled that he almost lost his reelection primary to Ted Kennedy. A guy disgraced by Chappaquiddick gave a sitting President a really tough primary. Thats pretty bad. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083.md?page=2)