# Jimmy Carter's grandson was instrumental in the release of the secret Romney video. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 18, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083 "2012-09-18T17:40:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/21 "2012-09-19T19:00:53Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > [Automatic disqualifier](http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/30/carter-jesus-would-not-approve-of-abortions/). Nope. The Dems continue to operate under a big tent. You, being a conservative on 2012, may have difficulty with the concept that people within your party may disagree, even on key issues, and yet still be worthy of support. Carter was known to be less than thrilled about the Democratic Party’s stance on the issue of legal access to abortion. Dems voted for him anyway. Carter’s position cost him some support within the party - life is unfair that way - but that one position did not derail his nomination. Could a Dem candidate who was luke warm on the choice issue win the POTUS nomination in future years? Unlikely but possible IMO. Said candidate would have to assuage a lot of concerns about SCOTUS choices and such, but the nomination is not completely out of reach just on that. Meanwhile the Republican Party is having a difficult time finding candidates who are against rape. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/22 "2012-09-19T19:04:08Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I have to agree with you on that. I don’t know about that. Politically he could tuck it in and say, “I’m opposed to abortion personally, but we need to keep it safe and legal, while working to reduce the number of abortions necessary through education and social programs.” ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/23 "2012-09-19T19:07:10Z")
I think the biggest thing that doomed Carter was stagflation. Inflation and growth are usually related - if you have inflation, it at least comes with growth. If you don’t have growth, at least prices aren’t going up. Carter had double-digit inflation and sluggish growth. Which gives the lie to the ‘Obama=Carter’ meme. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/24 "2012-09-19T19:22:36Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > ZZZZZZZZZZZ. Wake me if you find something interesting. Mortgage rates are hardly within the president’s power. Sure they are…if you induce a recession, like Reagan did. Mind you, the stagflation end was done mostly via Volcker, who was appointed by Carter but didn’t do his thing until the first Reagan term. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/25 "2012-09-19T20:20:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > …In my opinion, Carter was the most underrated president of the 20th century and history will be kind to him. Republicans love to put their supposed Christian values on display, but they constantly belittle the president who best exemplified the Christian ideal… What makes you think that Carter’s version of Christianity even vaguely resembles the stuff we see on TV these days? [http://www.queerty.com/jimmy-carter-supports-gay-marriage-jesus-never-said-gay-people-should-be-condemned-20120320/](http://www.queerty.com/jimmy-carter-supports-gay-marriage-jesus-never-said-gay-people-should-be-condemned-20120320/) His best decision was deregulating beer production, which led to the creation of microbreweries and my father regularly drinking American beer for the first time in his life. His worst decision was boycotting the 1980 Olympics. The thing that put re-election out of reach was the failure to rescue the Iran hostages > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > he would have been re-elected easily had not his opponents been secretly dealing with the hostage takers. :mad: This is more than a conspiracy theory. Only a bit though: [1980 October Surprise theory - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise_conspiracy_theory) > [@Simplicio](#): > > He, Chelsea Clinton, Ron Regan and David Eisenhower should form some sort of anti-GOP supergroup. Or they could for a superpac, call it the BRATPAC. > [@Lobohan](#): > > I don’t know about that. Politically he could tuck it in and say, “I’m opposed to abortion personally, but we need to keep it safe and legal, while working to reduce the number of abortions necessary through education and social programs.” I think that is what he did. > [@bup](#): > > I think the biggest thing that doomed Carter was stagflation. > > Inflation and growth are usually related - if you have inflation, it at least comes with growth. If you don’t have growth, at least prices aren’t going up. Carter had double-digit inflation and sluggish growth. > > Which gives the lie to the ‘Obama=Carter’ meme. I think it was the Iran Hostage Crisis, the liberal media was running the story every night for over a year. The economy was bad but a lot of it was the result of oil shocks and the federal reserve’s decision to painfully raise interest rates ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/26 "2012-09-20T14:03:08Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I have to agree with you on that. [Don’t be so hasty](http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Harry_Reid.htm#Abortion). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/27 "2012-09-21T00:25:08Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Carter was so reviled that he almost lost his reelection primary to Ted Kennedy. A guy disgraced by Chappaquiddick gave a sitting President a really tough primary. Thats pretty bad. No, Ted Kennedy was really that good, as shown by the whupping he gave Romney in '94. He had his personal failings, and because of his name we got to watch every example on the nightly news, but he was one hell of a politician. Maybe even better than his brothers. Jack and Bobby were never the backroom brawlers that Teddy was. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/28 "2012-09-21T00:37:40Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > Nope. The Dems continue to operate under a big tent. [Kind of ironic for you to say this](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/democrats-big-tent-is-a-cold-place-for-antiabortion-advocates/2012/08/07/ed28038e-e0c6-11e1-8fc5-a7dcf1fc161d_blog.html), all things considered. (And, no, the proposed language change didn’t come anywhere close to passing.) > [@](#): > > You, being a conservative on 2012, may have difficulty with the concept that people within your party may disagree, even on key issues, and yet still be worthy of support. Which is why the GOP abandoned Scott Brown or Olympia Snowe in their Senate campaigns, right? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/29 "2012-09-21T04:36:39Z")
Were there any pro-choice advocates even trying to change the Republican platform? And from your cite “Robert urged the committee members to prove that Democrats are more tolerant and open-minded than their opponents across the aisle: ‘Republicans are continually telling people they are unwelcome because of who they are, what they believe or where they were born. We are not that party.’” There’s a difference between a chilly reception and being shown the door. As to Republican Senators - let’s see what happens to the far-right candidates who defeated more moderate Republicans in this year’s primaries. The Red Team would have another Senate seat right now if they hadn’t nominated Sharon Angle. She was the one person in Nevada who could lose to Harry Reid, and she did. I think she’s gone on to hijack the heck out of this thread. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![alohatweetie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@alohatweetie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alohatweetie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083/30 "2012-09-26T20:31:03Z")
Truth is stranger than fiction. How ironic that the public was invited in by Jimmy Carter’s grandson! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimmy-carters-grandson-was-instrumental-in-the-release-of-the-secret-romney-video/635083.md?page=1)