# Jingo bin Laden vs Jingo W. Bush

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jingo-bin-laden-vs-jingo-w-bush/87292 "2001-10-13T20:20:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jingo-bin-laden-vs-jingo-w-bush/87292/16 "2001-10-13T22:45:13Z")

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I don’t ignore what you say, punk. I just call it for the ignorant drivel that it is. Let’s take it from the top, shall we? Try to keep up now, even though coherent thought isn’t real high on your list of priorities.

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> \*Originally posted by mswas \*  
> From Minty Green:
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> > And what system of morality do you ascribe to where the intentional murder of 5,000+ innocent people is anything other than a black and white issue?
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> This is where I decided that you were a jingo, because, you and Nacho4Sara were assuming that because I said he had a reason (never said justification, not once) that I condoned his murder of those people.

Nice try, asshole. But the words of mine that you quoted came immediately after you made the assertion that Osama bin Laden and September 11 were not a black and white issue. And unlike you, I can actually quote your own words to prove it:

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> Anyway, the point is Che Guevera and Pancho Villa were probably villified quite nicely in their time by their enemies and the people in this thread are willing to give them a grudging heroes respect, but they want to damn bin Laden. bin Laden is terrifying, but he is not an unthinking brute, he is not without support, he is not without a point in certain cases. **We want to paint this as a black and white issue so that we don’t have to “gasp” think about it.** This board is SUPPOSED to be fighting ignorance, but it propogates ignorance about as much as it fights it even though that is still a better ratio than other places it’s still pretty fucking depressing. I’ve found that many of the people here who put on a very good veneer of higher intelligence are jumping down anyone’s throat that offers an opinion that doesn’t jive with the jingoism of the day.

So basically, you claim I insinuated you approved of the murder of 5000 innocent people, immediately after you said it was not a black and white issue? Jumpin’ jehosiphat, where’d I ever get that idea?

And watch your fucking mouth in Great Debates, dickhead.

Oh, and your quote of Sara’s does, of course, show that somebody claimed bin Laden had no point. The trouble is, she didn’t make that post until _after_ you arrived on the scene and started shouting “Bin Laden has a point! Bin Laden has a point!” She also made that post _after_ you claimed that this was not a black and white issue. So don’t even _try_ to claim that as as justification for your disgusting statements in that thread. Shit don’t fly. Just ask those guys behind you with the shovels.

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