# Jinx, you're a fucking jackass. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 19, 2006, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373 "2006-05-19T04:39:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/41 "2006-05-19T18:56:13Z")
[QUOTE=Excalibre] And **Revtim** wasn’t encouraging him not to join or anything. [/QUOTE] I was simply stating my personal preference. Whether that affects his decision to join or not, I don’t know or care. I can’t imagine why my personal preference would matter to him, anyway. Almost all the questions asked here can be answered by a person doing some kind of research (like reading the Constitution), yet we still have meaningful and educational discussions from them. People shouldn’t be berated for it, in _any_ forum. That’s no way for people to act on a board that’s supposed to be for learning. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/42 "2006-05-19T19:07:53Z")
Actually, the thing that I found most annoying in that thread wasn’t **tiel0301** ’s profane overreaction, it was the group grope of Dopers who lined up to say, “Well, _I_ have read the Constitution, and it is quick to read.” Congratu-fucking-lations to everyone who has read the Constitution. Now stop patting yourself on the back, get over your mock surprise that most Americans aren’t models of a civic ideal, and answer the damn question at hand. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/43 "2006-05-19T19:50:32Z")
No matter how you cut it, **tiel** is a jerk. Long-time lurker or clueless newbie, there is no excuse to introduce yourself to the Board by cussing out one of its members, no matter what the provocation. In this case, there was none that should have impacted on **tiel** in any way. If we want to take **Jinx** to task, that is out prerogitive. It is not the prerogitive of an outsider any more than it is of the man on the street to entor your house and swear at you because of the color of your carpet or the names of your children. If that is going to be \*\*tiel’\*\*s attitude and approach, down to shrugging of a Mod warning, then fuck him and the horse he rode in on. We fight ignorance, not stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/44 "2006-05-19T19:54:11Z")
[QUOTE=Ravenman] Congratu-fucking-lations to everyone who has read the Constitution. Now stop patting yourself on the back, get over your mock surprise that most Americans aren’t models of a civic ideal, and answer the damn question at hand. [/QUOTE] I kinda agree. The Constitution is fascinating, and it’s great for folks to read it, but no way is it an easy read for most folks. _USA Today_ is written at a level that most folks can understand; the Constitution is not, nor was it during the eighteenth century. I really see nothing wrong with someone asking for a simple explanation of something in the Constitution. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/45 "2006-05-19T20:19:21Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] No matter how you cut it, **tiel** is a jerk. Long-time lurker or clueless newbie, there is no excuse to introduce yourself to the Board by cussing out one of its members, no matter what the provocation. In this case, there was none that should have impacted on **tiel** in any way. If we want to take **Jinx** to task, that is out prerogitive. It is not the prerogitive of an outsider any more than it is of the man on the street to entor your house and swear at you because of the color of your carpet or the names of your children. If that is going to be \*\*tiel’\*\*s attitude and approach, down to shrugging of a Mod warning, then fuck him and the horse he rode in on. We fight ignorance, not stupidity. [/QUOTE] See, here’s where we see this arrogant habit of treating guests differently. Back before pay-to-post, there wasn’t any particular difference - people could join the boards immediately. Now, there’s “guests” and “members” - and why shouldn’t a guest have the right to call out a member? Particularly when the guest had a point. Yeah, he shouldn’t have said that it GQ. But you’re a nasty little person if you think that it’s a guest’s responsibility to conduct themselves differently than a member. He has just as much business starting a pit thread as anyone else. And I don’t hold any particular animosity towards **Jinx** , but **tiel0301** had a point. And he didn’t shrug off a mod warning - he explained what he meant later in the thread. If he did, that’s the mods’ business, not yours. You’re straight-up junior modding at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/46 "2006-05-19T20:23:24Z")
[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness] The Constitution is fascinating, and it’s great for folks to read it, but no way is it an easy read for most folks. _USA Today_ is written at a level that most folks can understand; the Constitution is not … [/QUOTE] Good point. The next amendment we pass should include pie charts. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/47 "2006-05-19T20:26:45Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] No matter how you cut it, **tiel** is a jerk. Long-time lurker or clueless newbie, there is no excuse to introduce yourself to the Board by cussing out one of its members, no matter what the provocation. In this case, there was none that should have impacted on **tiel** in any way. If we want to take **Jinx** to task, that is out prerogitive. It is not the prerogitive of an outsider any more than it is of the man on the street to entor your house and swear at you because of the color of your carpet or the names of your children. If that is going to be \*\*tiel’\*\*s attitude and approach, down to shrugging of a Mod warning, then fuck him and the horse he rode in on. We fight ignorance, not stupidity. [/QUOTE] Where do I begin with this? Your ivory tower ideal of SDMB is not how I see this board at all. This is a forum for venting, against members, against Bush, against the weather, whatever. There is no rule implicit or otherwise that newbies, guests or whatever cannot or should not post here. **tiel** did post to the wrong forum, when reprimanded about that and given a recomendation about the appropriate forum, he went there and vented. This is nobody’s house. He did not shrug off the mod’s warning. In fact, he took it to heart. The mod did not say “oh yeah, you are a newbie/guest so shut your yap.” Do I think **jinx** deserved the lashing? Probably not, but I don’t agree at all with this sort of propriatary attitude you seem to have about SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/48 "2006-05-19T20:39:53Z")
[QUOTE=Daithi Lacha] That sounds like fair game to me. [/QUOTE] can’t you please leave Cheney out of this? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/49 "2006-05-19T20:40:47Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] Do I think **jinx** deserved the lashing? Probably not, but I don’t agree at all with this sort of propriatary attitude you seem to have about SDMB. [/QUOTE] I’ll second that. If someone is acting like a jackass, it shouldn’t matter if the person who calls them on it is a guest, a member, or a charter member. A person’s join date shouldn’t be a factor in judging the content of their post. That said, I’d say the content of the OP’s post is getting the treatment it deserves. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/50 "2006-05-19T22:31:07Z")
I haven’t read the Constitution, can I be pitted too? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/51 "2006-05-19T23:53:15Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] If we want to take **Jinx** to task, that is out prerogitive. It is not the prerogitive of an outsider any more than it is of the man on the street to entor your house and swear at you because of the color of your carpet or the names of your children. If that is going to be \*\*tiel’\*\*s attitude and approach, down to shrugging of a Mod warning, then fuck him and the horse he rode in on. We fight ignorance, not stupidity. [/QUOTE] I’m a _real_ long time lurker and this is my reservation to joining. I agree with cooler heads here. Why shouldn’t we be judged on our posts and not our post count? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/52 "2006-05-20T00:09:58Z")
**Tiel** _was_ judged on his post. He was judged and determined to be a dick. How often do you walk up to a complete stranger and cuss out someone he is talking to? Even if you know Person A, it is rude, obnoxious and downright moronic to do so, without so much as a “By your leave?” **Tiel** offered no answer to **Jinx** ’s question. He just popped up and started swearing at him. That marks **Tiel** as a fuckwad of the first order right there. There enough people in the world that we all have to deal with that have zero concept of politeness and courtesy. I see no reason why we should tolerate one more here, especially since they, so far, have offered nothing of either interest or consequence to this Board. If you check Jinx’s OP in GQ, you will see that he had a legitimate, if unresearched question. He got his answer, especially from **Ravenman** , who answered some of the nuances of the question. Then\*\* tiel\*\* barges in and impugns **Jinx** ’s existance. Fucktard he is, and fucktard he shall remain. By the way: **Don’t fight the hypothetical**? Welcome to the Dope. May your stay here be fruitful. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/53 "2006-05-20T00:13:25Z")
[QUOTE=Excalibre] Yeah. Wow. A guest violated the rules. Let’s all pile on! He made a reasonable point; he did it in a rather impolite way, and he broke the rules of the forum. He got warned. He doesn’t really need every mod wannabe on the boards to warn him again. Besides, he’s right - **Jinx** _is_ a fucking jackass. I saw no sign in that thread that **Jinx** had any particular desire to remedy his not having read the Constitution. If you examine the questions he asks, you start to think that maybe he’s not seeking knowledge. Or if he is, he’s doing a bad job of it. His habit is developing an idle curiosity about one minor thing, and then doing _nothing_ to improve his knowledge in general, doing no research on his own, just sort of regurgitating the wanderings of his mind into threads on the SDMB. It’s gross mischaracterization to call that “seeking knowledge”. Really? I mean, let’s face it, **Jinx** is not exactly heavy cavalry in the war on ignorance. His presence isn’t terribly destructive, but if there were a thousand of him asking inane questions that he could find the answers to anywhere (like, say, on the curriculum of any middle school), the boards would become completely useless for the rest of us. **Jinx** doesn’t even try to find the answers to things he asks, or to learn anything about the subject matter. It’s lovely to talk about people earnestly seeking knowledge, but **Jinx** ain’t it. Let’s not canonize the dude, ok? [/QUOTE] Amen. I’ve regularly seen **Jinx** GQ questions that a quick look at a disctionary could’ve answered. And 90% of the time he adds that inane “I’m deeply puzzled” smilie. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/54 "2006-05-20T00:28:58Z")
(Yeah, yeah. I know.) Here’s some of the Best of Jinx: > **[What is a Horseradish, anyway?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=367141)** > > I know what a horse is. I know what a radish is. But, what the heck is a horseradish? - Jinx 😕 > **[Hockey Fans: Who Was Stanley?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=372103)** > > Why is the prized trophy of the NHL called the “Stanley Cup”? > **[Winter Game: Skiing w/Gun? Biatholon?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=360540)** > > Hey, do they still have that Olympic Winter Sport combining cross-country skiiing with target shooting? Was that called the biatholon (sp?)? Thanks, - Jinx > **[White Lie?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=370249)** > > What is the difference between a white lie and just a lie, and why is it white? Does it refer to the “White Man” and how they duped the American Indians? Does it refer to purity because (allegedly) a white lie is deemed harmless? Jinx 😕 > **[Why Easter on Sunday?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=367427)** > > How come Christmas can float, but Easter is fixed to Sunday? - Jinx 😕 > **[Hams: Is Shortwave = Ham Radio?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=367304)** > > 😕 Is Ham radio synonomous with shortwave radio? Is it a subset of the shortwave section of the RF spectrum? Or, is it totally different? - Jinx > **[Does Subcutaneous = hypodermic?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337366)** > > Are these terms interchanegable? If not, what is the technical differences? - Jinx ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/55 "2006-05-20T01:11:30Z")
**don’t fight the hypothetical** , the usual prolonged and tortuous Bad Goat/Good Goat Newbie Initiation Ritual is temporarily on hold for you until the current bristling is over and until someone finds where we stashed the firecrackers and the Mazola. But welcome! > [@](#): > > **silenus** : Fucktard he is, and fucktard he shall remain. I just flashed on Yul Brynner saying, “So let it be written. So let it be done.” ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/56 "2006-05-20T01:16:22Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] **Tiel** _was_ judged on his post. He was judged and determined to be a dick. There enough people in the world that we all have to deal with that have zero concept of politeness and courtesy. I see no reason why we should tolerate one more here, especially since they, so far, have offered nothing of either interest or consequence to this Board. If you check Jinx’s OP in GQ, you will see that he had a legitimate, if unresearched question. He got his answer, especially from **Ravenman** , who answered some of the nuances of the question. Then\*\* tiel\*\* barges in and impugns **Jinx** ’s existance. Fucktard he is, and fucktard he shall remain. [/quote] I feel I wasn’t understood. I’m sure it’s me that was unclear. You said, "_If we want to take **Jinx** to task, that is \*\*ou[r] \*\*(bolding mine) prerogitive. It is not the prerogitive of an outsider any more than it is of … \"_. It is this I take issue with and not your chararterization of **Tiel** as a “fucktard” (though I’m not agreeing with you on this as a matter of course either). It seems to me that **Teil** was, indeed, judged on his post. All well and good. _Then_ you stated that was not enough, he needs to be judged yet on a stricter standard because of his status. And worse (to me) was that it was _you_ who was setting in judgement of when an “outsider” should be allowed to critisize an ‘insider’. Right after you join? What’s the magic post number? I maintain my position that _any_ posting member, should be judged on his or her post and not some buddy system. Just because **Tiel** got it wrong dosen’t mean the program is flawed. Baby/bathwater? > [@](#): > > By the way: **Don’t fight the hypothetical**? Welcome to the Dope. May your stay here be fruitful. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/57 "2006-05-20T01:25:11Z")
[QUOTE=Don’t fight the hypothetical] What’s the magic post number? [/QUOTE] It seems to vary with the poster. Some of em get snooty right quick. Others never do. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/58 "2006-05-20T01:36:11Z")
Thanks for the welcome, **Zoe**. Like I said I’m a real long time lurker. I don’t mind my feet being held to the fire. Bring on the Mazola! [QUOTE=Squink] It seems to vary with the poster. Some of em get snooty right quick. Others never do. [/QUOTE] Not snooty at all. Ironically, I’m guessing you read it that way because I’m a newb. Just asking/making a point. But because of your post it seems you made my point for me. Still, I ask you to be fair. I know I’ll screw it up before I get it right. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/59 "2006-05-20T01:51:55Z")
[QUOTE=Zoe] I just flashed on Yul Brynner saying, “So let it be written. So let it be done.” [/QUOTE] Well, I **do** have the haircut. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373/60 "2006-05-20T02:02:46Z")
[QUOTE=Don’t fight the hypothetical] Still, I ask you to be fair. I know I’ll screw it up before I get it right. [/QUOTE] Welcome to the Dope, **Dfth** , and don’t let this little fracas spook ya. Everybody screws up _something_ sooner or later. People really do take their tone from others. Reasonable folks are usually treated reasonably. Hazing newbies just because they’re new almost always boomerangs right back into the flamer’s teeth. **tie10301** made two missteps, neither of 'em fatal to long life and happiness on the board as long as he/she learns from ‘em. 1.) Unprovoked aggression, i.e. flaming, in a forum that doesn’t permit those kind of exchanges. 2.) He/she, as have many others, underestimated the perils of dragging another poster into the Pit for a whuppin’. Pittings can invite responses equal to their ire so a scathing denunciation can backfire on the OP. And you’re absolutely right. The post count thing/registration date thing is hopelessly stupid. Veb [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jinx-youre-a-fucking-jackass/357373.md?page=4)