# JJ Abrams' NCC-1701 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538 "2008-11-13T15:30:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/21 "2008-11-13T20:53:20Z")
It’s not that bad really. My only gripe was that the film is evoking the TV series with the primary coloured uniforms but then evoking the movies with this ship. To me, the Trekkie, it just jars a little. > [@Wheeljack](#): > > Fine, I guess I’ll be the first one to say it… > > What the hell is this? Are we supposed to believe that in the course of twenty years the Enterprise was completely stripped down and rebuilt **twice** , or are we just supposed to stick our fingers in our ears and pretend that the TOS Enterprise never happened? Well, reading about some snippets of film that were shown to a select audience… From [Empire magazine](http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=313); > [@](#): > > The pair run through the corridors before locating Uhura, who is more preoccupied with the size of Kirk’s swollen hands. As he tries to explain, his toungue goes numb, leading to much slurring and misunderstanding. > [@](#): > > Pegg is clearly the bulk of the comic relief in the film but pulls it off without being ridiculous or embarrassing, which is no mean feat given the character’s heritage. “The Enterprise? I’d like to get my hands on her ample nacelles, if you’ll pardon the engineering parlance.” Whoosh? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/22 "2008-11-13T20:58:16Z")
I like it. Futuristic, yet familiar. Come on, this is the 21st century. Do we need to be a slave to the special effects that were possible in the 60’s? Even since the last appearance of the NCC-1701-A in “The Undiscovered Country” CGI has come a long way. Those of you who demand exactness can satisfy yourself with the remastered CGI effects in the original episodes. And Star Trek is more about the crew than about a particular ship. They’ve proven that with “The Voyage Home” when the crew went back to 1986 San Fransisco with the captured Klingon cruiser. And when Kirk was given command of the Enterprise A. Their ties may have been forged on the original Enterprise, but their relationships had expanded beyond a particular ship. As long as they were together, they could call any ship their own. I’ll be watching this movie with an open mind and expect to leave most of my preconceptions at the door. As long as Abrams and the writers tell a good story, it doesn’t need to look exactly like it did 45 years ago. And I say this as a long time Trek fan, ever since 1966. ---
**Author:** ![Wheeljack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@Wheeljack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheeljack)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/23 "2008-11-13T21:22:14Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > It is a reboot given a slender thread to the original series to mitigate fanboy freak-outs. Oh. Well, that’s different. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/24 "2008-11-13T21:29:52Z")
It looks ok, I guess. The saucer part seems a little bigger than it should be…maybe they added more phasers? Never have too many phasers… ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/25 "2008-11-13T22:08:05Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > It looks ok, I guess. The saucer part seems a little bigger than it should be…maybe they added more phasers? Never have too many phasers… If you’re talking about the port/starboard phaser banks on the underside of the saucer section, those have been around since the _Star Trek Blueprints_ came out in the early 70s. They became cannon with the refit of the _Enterprise_ for _TMP_ and were first scene in action in the battle with the _Reliant_ in _Khan_. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/26 "2008-11-13T22:13:01Z")
The port/starboard phaser banks became _cannon_!! :eek: I know Kirk had that whole Horatio Hornblower envy going on, but that is taking it a bit far, methinks. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/27 "2008-11-13T22:14:24Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > The port/starboard phaser banks became _cannon_!! :eek: > > I know Kirk had that whole Horatio Hornblower envy going on, but that is taking it a bit far, methinks. 😛 Oh, was that too subtle? Was I obliged to include a winky? 😉 (I will, though, admit that “first scene in action” was an error.) ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/28 "2008-11-13T22:21:50Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I like it. Futuristic, yet familiar. Come on, this is the 21st century. Do we need to be a slave to the special effects that were possible in the 60’s? It’s sort of being a slave to the special effects possible in the late 1970s though. If the nacelles were updated, why leave the saucer looking a tad backwards, like the TMP saucer? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/29 "2008-11-13T23:16:18Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > The port/starboard phaser banks became _cannon_!! :eek: > > I know Kirk had that whole Horatio Hornblower envy going on, but that is taking it a bit far, methinks. 😛 > [@KneadToKnow](#): > > Oh, was that too subtle? Was I obliged to include a winky? > > 😉 > > (I will, though, admit that “first scene in action” was an error.) **KneadToKnow** , I think you were being whooshed. While you meant the phaser banks were “canon”, **Lightray** was making light of your “cannon” typo and running with it. Unless you did that on purpose, then of course I retract my clarification. ---
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/30 "2008-11-13T23:30:34Z")
Nacelles and deflector look too “hotrodded” to me. It looks like someone took the ship from TOS and then chopped and channeled it. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/31 "2008-11-13T23:41:02Z")
I like it. It matches the interior styling, which has deliberately been pushed into something that you might expect the fashions of the 23rd Century to be. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/32 "2008-11-13T23:52:30Z")
Wrong font. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/33 "2008-11-14T01:39:31Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Wrong font. If there is a prize for most absurdly obscure fannish nit to pick, you’re definitely in the running here. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/34 "2008-11-14T01:51:19Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > If there is a prize for most absurdly obscure fannish nit to pick, you’re definitely in the running here. Actually, its a bit of a running gag, because if you notice, you _can’t_ see any lettering on the ship in the pics linked in the OP. However, when the teaser trailer first appeared, people (not me, as I didn’t notice it) pointed out that the font was wrong, and now, whenever someone posts a still from the new movie, someone always responds (at some point) with “wrong font.”😛 ---
**Author:** ![jkusters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jkusters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkusters)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/35 "2008-11-14T01:51:27Z")
Heh, I think a nice Mercedes, Jaguar, or even BMW hood ornament would fail to look out of place on this ship. And I’m saying that as a trekkie from before I was born. (Honest! My parents watched the show in first-runs while I was gestating! :D) ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/36 "2008-11-14T01:53:03Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Actually, its a bit of a running gag, because if you notice, you _can’t_ see any lettering on the ship in the pics linked in the OP. However, when the teaser trailer first appeared, people (not me, as I didn’t notice it) pointed out that the font was wrong, and now, whenever someone posts a still from the new movie, someone always responds (at some point) with “wrong font.”😛 You can see the \*\*NCC \*\*on the port nascelle. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/37 "2008-11-14T02:05:47Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > If they keep themselves bogged down by the sacred cows of Trekkies, it’ll tank. We’ve already seen that. Do you have any particular examples in mind? I thought _Enterprise_ was becoming decent when they began fanwanking it instead of time travel fighting bug men and Nazis. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/38 "2008-11-14T02:13:54Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > You can see the \*\*NCC \*\*on the port nascelle. Not on my monitor, you can’t. Its just fuzzy black shapes which _might_ be NCC, but might also be something shaped like XXX. The front of the nacelles design seems to have been influenced by [Chrysler.](http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1960-1962-chrysler-new-yorker.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/39 "2008-11-14T02:20:01Z")
[Chris Pine](http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20233788_1,00.html) resembles Christopher Pike more than Kirk. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538/40 "2008-11-14T02:24:41Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > You can see the \*\*NCC \*\*on the port nascelle. You can also see the “701” part of 1701 along the leading edge of the underside of the engineering section. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jj-abrams-ncc-1701/472538.md?page=3)