# JLU: Luthor Takes Charge (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 20, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270 "2006-02-20T01:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/21 "2006-02-20T22:04:37Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > It has nothing to do with that at all. It’s all about contracts, and which producers are allowed to work with which characters. Don’t give us (the viewers) that much credit for being important – it has nothing to do with us and everything to do with which characters are being farmed out to who, for what other media projects. Ok I admit I was wrong however I do not like this practice. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/22 "2006-02-20T22:11:44Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > I know this was a concern in the past, but doesn’t WB do everything in house these days? They are, but different teams do everything. I mean, you have Christopher Nolan and his producers behind _Batman Begins_, Bryan Singer and his producers behind _Superman Returns_, Joss Whedon helming _Wonder Woman_, the dude who once played the “tough guy” on _Head of the Class \* as the producer of Smallville, Bruce Timm and Dwayne McDuffie on_ JLU\*, Murakami on _Teen Titans_, Jeff Mitsuda (sp?) on _Ze Batman_, whoever makes _Krypto the Superdog_… that’s just off the top of my head. All those teams would have their own separate contracts drawn up for their own projects, even if they all labor under the Warner Brothers umbrella and use characters owned by DC Comics. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/23 "2006-02-20T23:38:10Z")
I liked Luthor disappointed when he realized he was a bald ape. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/24 "2006-02-21T04:23:28Z")
::: Moderator 'fesses up :::: For some reason, the spoiler tags aren’t working. I have no clue why. I’ve put “Spoilers” in the thread title until we can find someone who can figger it out. Apologies!! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/25 "2006-02-21T04:27:26Z")
> [@Fern Forest](#): > > I liked Luthor disappointed when he realized he was a bald ape. ‘_Sigh_ Why am I not surprised…?’ Classic, that. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/26 "2006-02-21T04:43:32Z")
Um, is it just me or are spoiler tags not working in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/27 "2006-02-21T04:44:35Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > Um, is it just me or are spoiler tags not working in this thread? [Emily Litella]Never mind.[/EL] :o ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/28 "2006-02-21T05:55:30Z")
What I want to know is how this series managed to end up with some of the best writing on TV. Superman: I know a burger place in Metropolis that has the best fries on the east coast. And the milkshakes are so thick… [as Deadman] I need your help. Wonder Woman: That’s pretty thick. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/29 "2006-02-21T07:20:41Z")
To me, Dwayne McDuffie’s episodes have some of the best character moments and dialogue, Paul Dini’s episodes are the most epic in terms of plot, and newcomer Matt Wayne writes the best fight scenes. Shame its all winding down. I want to see Dwayne McDuffie do Milestone Comics Animated, baby! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/30 "2006-02-21T20:09:33Z")
That was Grodd’s plan? If I were Luthor, I would have shot him, too. I was impressed. A JLU with a body count. My big question was: if Grodd’s ray turned humans into gorillas, why did Superman turn into a gorilla? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/31 "2006-02-21T20:18:54Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > My big question was: if Grodd’s ray turned humans into gorillas, why did Superman turn into a gorilla? I was wondering the same thing. Dianna, also - wasn’t she created rather than born? ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270/32 "2006-02-21T20:29:34Z")
[fanboy explanation mode] Obviously Grodd’s device wasn’t perfectly specific to humans. It would transform any humanoid into an ape (one wonders if Chimpanzees found themselves turning into Gorillas, or lowland gorillas into mountain gorillas). While Superman is not human, he’s close enough. His physiology, outside of the powers, is very similar, and he’s been affected by such “anti-human” devices before. Also, it was fueled by magic, which Superman has no defenses against. Diana, however, is human. She started life as a statue, but was transformed into a perfectly human baby. She even has a human soul. [/FEM] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jlu-luthor-takes-charge-open-spoilers/345270.md?page=1)