# Joan of Arcadia 11/12, or When Bad Friends Spoil Good Dates **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 12, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406 "2004-11-12T17:19:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/21 "2004-11-13T20:25:03Z")
I was teasin’ – and only a little concerned that some of the young 'uns might be having one of those “No, really, Paul was in another band before Wings” moments. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/22 "2004-11-13T21:39:53Z")
Hate to pop in just for a me too, but I do agree with all of you. Probably the best episode yet. Regarding the juggling on the bridge puzzle, no, [juggling doesn’t help](http://www2.bc.edu/~lewbel/jugweb/science-1.html). I noticed in the episode, though, that God was careful to say that that was the age-old answer to the riddle, and so it is. Unlike a bridge, life has an element of gestalt. It can stand the bit of a jolt from the ball landing in the hand. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/23 "2004-11-13T23:12:22Z")
So I didn’t forget all my high school physics! I don’t know whether to be happy or chagrined at that. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/24 "2004-11-13T23:14:16Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > I was teasin’ – and only a little concerned that some of the young 'uns might be having one of those “No, really, Paul was in another band before Wings” moments. 😃 He was? I didn’t know that!!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/25 "2004-11-14T07:21:51Z")
Now some of you may know that I’m a Trek fan, and when UPN moved **Enterprise** to Friday at 8 PM, I had to choose between it and JoA. Well … Joan won, although thankfully the UPN station in my neck of the woods at least re-airs the weekly episode of Enterprise on Saturday night at 8 PM, so I do get to tape it then. That’s how much I love **Joan of Arcadia**. The shows are usually well- balanced and always well-acted–this is definitely one of the best casts on TV, imho. 🙂 I really like how there was a bit of lightness (the Luke/Grace/Friedman storyline) juxtaposed to the heavyness of Judith–it certainly saved me from totally floating away on my tears. I like too how the avatars re-appear from time to time rather than constantly changing. It was good to see the doctor, who was watching over Judith. Next week’s episode looks to be a good one–and will provide some back story. Did anyone else catch a glimpse of Michael Welch (Luke), supposedly two years younger?! He really did look younger! ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/26 "2004-11-14T09:48:05Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > (You know that was Amber Tamblyn’s father, right?) Uh, yeah. He showed up back in season one once or twice. Well. I love Adam, a whole bunch. He’s super. Who’s Lucy? Is she the woman who told Will they found “a girl [with] no ID, just a name tag and a sweater”? Why do we hate her? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/27 "2004-11-14T10:17:40Z")
We watched the episode again, and for the record with respect to whether she said “snacks” or “X”, she said “snacks”. “We’re going to a party. We’re just picking up some snacks.” ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/28 "2004-11-14T13:19:02Z")
> [@Silver Fire](#): > > Who’s Lucy? Is she the woman who told Will they found “a girl [with] no ID, just a name tag and a sweater”? > > Why do we hate her? Yeah, that’s her. She’s Will’s new boss, who may or may not be making a play for Will, which is why we hate her. Plus she seems weird enough that some posters have made comparison’s to Dr. Amanda Lee (Mare Winingham) from ER a few seasons back – who turned out to be an imposter, a nutbar, and a stalker. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/29 "2004-11-14T14:51:41Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > We watched the episode again, and for the record with respect to whether she said “snacks” or “X”, she said “snacks”. “We’re going to a party. We’re just picking up some snacks.” But she does say she was buying X when she is talking to Detective Girardi in the hospital room. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/30 "2004-11-14T18:37:36Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > But she does say she was buying X when she is talking to Detective Girardi in the hospital room. I don’t think she wanted Joan to know what she was doing. Joan would have bolted after her, and Judith, in her strange way, may not have wanted to ruin her date. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/31 "2004-11-14T18:55:34Z")
That’s exactly how I see it. On an unrelated note, I suspect that Judith knew who the doctor was. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/32 "2004-11-14T19:00:27Z")
Poor Friedman ☹ It would be interesting showing him reciting Hamlet at Judith’s funeral. I usually tape Trek, watch JoA and then watch Trek afterwards. This week i taped JoA and watched Trek (and then a DVD) and didn’t watch JoA till today. Brian of course bridges don’t instantly collapse at a certain weight. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406/33 "2004-11-14T20:59:29Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Yeah, that’s her. She’s Will’s new boss, who may or may not be making a play for Will, which is why we hate her. That hussy! 😃 Okay, thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-11-12-or-when-bad-friends-spoil-good-dates/274406.md?page=1)