# Joan of Arcadia 4/8, or Life Goes On **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 8, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416 "2005-04-08T16:56:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/21 "2005-04-11T01:26:17Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I got the sense that Lilly had been raped or molested. She didn’t seem to me to be just naive about sex, but rather a bit terrified about it. You didn’t grow up in the Catholic church in the 60’s or 70’s – do I win that bet? Yeah, she’s probably terrified of it, for many reasons, not the least of it is that she probably thinks that will forever close the door on her past, and thematically that goes well with the episode. Next week looks scary! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/22 "2005-04-11T08:30:23Z")
> [@ddgryphon](#): > > You didn’t grow up in the Catholic church in the 60’s or 70’s – do I win that bet? Oh lord, definitely. Collect your money. ---
**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/23 "2005-04-11T10:19:27Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > By focusing on the good, and letting bygones be bygones. I had a two-year relationship twenty-five years ago that ended badly (she done me wrong, was unfaithful, etc.), but not a day goes by that I don’t think fondly of the good times we had. Joan hasn’t had anywhere near this amount of time to reflect; reallistically, she would still be in her justifiable anger phase. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/24 "2005-04-11T14:48:59Z")
> [@threeorange](#): > > Joan hasn’t had anywhere near this amount of time to reflect; reallistically, she would still be in her justifiable anger phase. My comment, and the several it was replying to, were speaking generally, not to Joan’s current condition specifically. Yes, it will take time for Joan to get to the point where she can look back fondly. But, she now recognizes that at some point, she will. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/25 "2005-04-11T16:19:54Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I knew that Tutman hadn’t slept with Chelsea. He didn’t come across as that stupid, and he did mention she was a troubled student. On the other hand, he did seem very inappropriate. Loaning books and CD’s and telling Joan “Call me day or night.” I’m sure it was all innocent, but in today’s school atmosphere, he’s setting himself up. Especially letting a female student come to your house, counseling or not. As much as I like the show, I’m afraid that this was not one of the best episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/898d66/32.png) [@Mycroft\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_H)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/26 "2005-04-11T20:51:03Z")
**ivylass** , I meant pretty much what **BrotherCadfel** said. Unless a relationship ends too horribly, I would think that for most people the many good times can be considered and reflected upon in a healthy manner. Perhaps not as quickly as the show allowed, but eventually. When it appeared to me that she was going to toss out Adam’s gifts, I shouted at the TV “No!” My wife wondered about my reaction and I had to think about it for a while. Maybe I reflect on the past too much, but I enjoy it and I don’t think I do it to excess (which I grant can be unhealthy in some circumstances). As we are all the sum of past experiences, to totally write off one’s own past is be unfair to yourself. I just felt that if Joan had got rid of all of her memories of Adam, she would regret it some day, after the pain of the infidelity had faded. As for Tutman, the writers really wanted us to assume he was having the affair, and I fell for it. :o ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/27 "2005-04-11T22:39:28Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Am I the only one who is losing interest in the show? It was a lot more appealing the first season ☹ I keep watching, hoping it will get really good again, but… You’re not the only one. I started watching it because I’m absolutely fed up with crap like _CSI_ and _Without a Trace_ where by the end of the show, every guest star is either dead or has had their life completely ruined, and most of the regulars have had their lives flushed further down the toilet. Not to even mention those shows’ absolute obsession with making **children** the victims and/or the perpetrators most of the time. _Joan_ was a show where there were either happy endings, or endings where at least the audience knew that things were better than they would have been had Joan not done what God asked. Lately, it’s been sinking so far into the “no one gets to be happy for more than a day” syndrome that if it weren’t for my SO wanting to watch it, it would be permanently off my list. I’ve heard that the show’s been slipping in the ratings. Can’t the writers get a damned clue that people are turning it off because it’s just not the same show they started watching? ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416/28 "2005-04-13T12:08:33Z")
> [@Roadfood](#): > > I’ve heard that the show’s been slipping in the ratings. Can’t the writers get a damned clue that people are turning it off because it’s just not the same show they started watching? There’s a long article in my paper today that talks about NBC’s _Revelations_ and how religion is portrayed on TV. In one paragraph, they mention a recent group of new shows - \*Joan, Wonderfalls, Carnivale, Dead Like Me, \* and _Point Pleasant._ It said of the five, only _Joan_ and _Carnivale_ are still on the air, and both face cancellation in the coming weeks. :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-of-arcadia-4-8-or-life-goes-on/298416.md?page=1)