# Joan Rivers has died \[updated thread title\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 28, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771 "2014-08-28T17:20:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/21 "2014-08-29T17:33:03Z")

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If she recovers, _she’ll_ be making that same joke. She’s been making it for decades already.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/22 "2014-08-29T17:37:09Z")

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loving will was a typo. It’s meant to be living will. Something every person should have. Age doesn’t matter. A car wreck could put a 20 year old in a coma and on a breathing machine for decades unless there’s a living will to prevent it.

I’ve generally liked Joan Rivers’ comedy. I grew to intensely dislike her on Celebrity Apprentice. She was way to ruthless for my tastes. Especially since everyone was there to make money for their charities. But, she is an excellent comedian with amazing longevity in a tough business. She even survived being shunned by Johnny Carson. AFAIK they were still not on speaking terms when he died.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/23 "2014-08-29T19:04:19Z")

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She was also one of the pioneer woman stand-up comedians (as opposed to a theatrical/tv comedian), along with Phyllis Diller. Those two blazed the trail for the women who came after.

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**Author:** ![BaldDudePeekskill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@BaldDudePeekskill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaldDudePeekskill)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/24 "2014-08-29T19:05:51Z")

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Was privileged to see Ms Rivers in concert last month. She is an amazing comedian and darn, she was all over the stage, and was utterly hysterical. If she recovers (and I hope she does), she will certainly address this in her shtick somehow. Irreverence is her forte

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/25 "2014-08-29T19:26:33Z")

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“This happened at the Doctor’s office, and what did he do?  
He called an ambulance, for Christ’s sake!  
Yes, we say that, too.  
The next time I’m sick, I’m just going to drive over where they park the damn thing, and do away with the middle man.”

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/26 "2014-08-29T19:44:07Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> OMG! I can’t believe you are using this terrible event to have a laugh at Joan’s tragedy. Isn’t that wrong somehow?
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> I mean … I strongly dislike Joan and if it’s permitted by the rules, I’m pretty sure I would try to do the same thing.
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> But, I just kind of figured that would not be permitted in this forum. Am I wrong about that?

While normally I’d say it would be in bad taste, it IS exactly the sort of joke Joan Rivers would make about someone either critically ill or recently deceased.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/27 "2014-08-29T19:53:35Z")

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My daughter’s text to me: Was she having plastic surgery?  
Me: If she was and she passes, at least she died doing something she loved.

Sure hope she wasn’t without oxygen for too long.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/28 "2014-08-29T20:32:22Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> OMG! I can’t believe you are using this terrible event to have a laugh at Joan’s tragedy. Isn’t that wrong somehow?
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> I mean … I strongly dislike Joan and if it’s permitted by the rules, I’m pretty sure I would try to do the same thing.
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> But, I just kind of figured that would not be permitted in this forum. Am I wrong about that?

She’s a public figure. That makes her fair game. Although as others said, it’s probably a joke she would have appreciated. I’m sure jokes about Lauren Bacall or Robin Williams would be universally less appreciated. It’s a judgment call. You have to consider your target audience.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/29 "2014-08-29T21:16:31Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> She was also one of the pioneer woman stand-up comedians (as opposed to a theatrical/tv comedian), along with Phyllis Diller. Those two blazed the trail for the women who came after.

Phyllis Diller:  
“I should have used Snowy Bleach. Not on my hair… \* nothing \* could help \* that! \* Ha-ha-ha-ha…”

“[I deplore] the way they refer to Hurricane Hilda as “scattered showers.” Why don’t they call it what it is–scattered landscape!!”

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/30 "2014-08-29T21:17:31Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Me: If she was and she passes, at least she died doing something she loved.

I think Joan Rivers would _love_ that comment. Heck, if she recovers, she’ll probably steal it.

(I very much hope she recovers.)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/31 "2014-08-29T21:20:01Z")

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> [@koeeoaddi](#):
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> I think Joan Rivers would _love_ that comment. Heck, if she recovers, she’ll probably steal it.
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> (I very much hope she recovers.)

I, too. I was very young when I saw her on _The Tonight Show_. She was very, very funny.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/32 "2014-08-29T21:26:17Z")

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Gilbert Gottfried better have a great, rude joke to make the moment she dies. She would want it that way.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/33 "2014-08-29T21:27:53Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Gilbert Gottfried better have a great, rude joke to make the moment she dies. She would want it that way.

And he’s just the one to do it, too! 😃

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/34 "2014-08-29T21:32:45Z")

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No kidding? Jon Stewart is Jewish?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/35 "2014-08-29T22:04:57Z")

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> [@tapu](#):
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> No kidding? Jon Stewart is Jewish?

A mensch you are not, already!  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/36 "2014-08-29T22:11:42Z")

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> [@tapu](#):
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> No kidding? Jon Stewart is Jewish?

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> A mensch you are not, already!  
> 🙂

The correct answer to **tapu** ’s question is “Maybe a little?”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/37 "2014-08-29T22:20:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The correct answer to **tapu** ’s question is “Maybe a little?”

His Mama is Jewish, or she is not.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/38 "2014-08-29T23:00:05Z")

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If Joan were here, she could probably tell you if he was circumcised.

\<badda bing\>

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/39 "2014-08-29T23:24:39Z")

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she was getting her throat operated on.

her voice was softening and she had to correct it.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-died-updated-thread-title/696771/40 "2014-08-30T01:05:09Z")

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Joan can’t die - she won’t biodegrade for 50,000 years.

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