# Joan Rivers has gotten bitter **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 15, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427 "2011-02-15T06:53:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427/41 "2011-02-17T14:24:19Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > My thoughts exactly. Appearing on Celebrity Apprentice was the worse thing Joan Rivers did, because we now know what JOan really is. > > I also will never watch Celebrity Apprentice ever again. Y’know, I thought that too, but then I saw a clip of Meat Loaf getting ready to pull Gary Busey’s endocrine system out of his body\*, and I fear I might get sucked in again… a threat Busey actually made to somebody. Meat Loaf just bellows that he’s going to beat the shit out him, which I’d love to see! ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427/42 "2011-02-17T16:55:43Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So, if Joan Rivers and the Straight Dopers were drowning in the Hudson and you could only choose one or the other…😃 Well, that’s easy. > [@](#): > > I agree on her fear of being broke again which is what makes her **LAVISH** lifestyle all the more baffling. She doesn’t live well, she lives like a Saudi prince. Apparently! I was skeptical about how she could afford it – she’s been off my radar for a long time. So I went to IMdB – the woman’s been working her ass off for years. Books, writing for others, producing, TV, some movies, the jewelry line – that’s a lot of paychecks. Not all big paychecks, but steady paychecks. I haven’t seen Celebrity Apprentice but I’m watching the new season. It features Nene Leakes (Real Housewives of Atlanta), one of the biggest famewhores ever, a woman who was a fan favorite in the first season but who since has been burning bridges like Attila, going up against Whitney Houston (or is it Cicely Tyson – I dunno, somebody old), Latoya Jackson, and Star Jones. It should be delicious. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427/43 "2011-02-19T08:55:19Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > Is there somewhere online to see this? Video or photos? It appears to be the first 60 seconds of [this video clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IbHjRTeGrQ). ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427/44 "2011-02-19T21:18:25Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > It appears to be the first 60 seconds of [this video clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IbHjRTeGrQ). Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427/45 "2011-02-19T22:22:43Z")
I’d like to have the bankroll she’s forked over to her plastic surgeon. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427/46 "2011-02-21T16:17:14Z")
At one time, she was the hottest comedian around. she was very funny. That was when the Carson Show was around. Her appearances brought in viewers. She was on top of the list. Her falling out with Carson brought her down and made her bitter and nasty. But I think she still is funny. . She uses the plastic surgeries quite a bit in her standup. But this endless whining about her looks does not allow you to claim she is nasty. That is because you are being nasty. She is old and spent a lot of money to keep her stage act going. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-has-gotten-bitter/571427.md?page=2)