# Joan Rivers is an idiot. First Amendment does not mean Costco has to sell your book

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 9, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973 "2012-08-09T16:35:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/21 "2012-08-09T18:30:26Z")

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The bible? Isn’t she Jewish? I knew about the book because she managed to get herself on Stewart or Colbert last week.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/22 "2012-08-09T19:03:32Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Did you know she even had a book out before you heard about this stunt?
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> Case closed.

I assumed that she did since she’s been making the talk show rounds lately. So this stunt doesn’t bring much to the table for me.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/23 "2012-08-09T20:02:05Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The bible? Isn’t she Jewish? I knew about the book because she managed to get herself on Stewart or Colbert last week.

“Bible” has more cachet than “Torah” or “Tanakh”, although the latter is commonly referred to in English as “The Hebrew Bible”.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/24 "2012-08-09T20:03:48Z")

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Wait, she handcuffed herself to a _cart_? That seems like a particularly stupid thing to do, given that they have wheels, and can easily be removed from the store (and into the back of a paddy wagon).

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/25 "2012-08-09T20:10:57Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Did you know she even had a book out before you heard about this stunt?
> 
> Case closed.

Could have locked the thread after this post

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/26 "2012-08-09T20:11:09Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wait, she handcuffed herself to a _cart_? That seems like a particularly stupid thing to do, given that they have wheels, and can easily be removed from the store (and into the back of a paddy wagon).

The wheels lock at the parking lot perimeter. 😃

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/27 "2012-08-09T20:35:44Z")

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I don’t know who’s whooshing whom here. Does anyone actually believe that JR did this as a serious thing? Or is the OP a dry parody of people who fall victim to Poe’s Law?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/28 "2012-08-09T20:37:09Z")

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> [@leahcim](#):
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> Wait. Joan Rivers is still alive?

I’m not sure how many of her original parts are still intact, but yes.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/29 "2012-08-09T22:01:32Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Wait, she resorted to drastic measures when something needed a lift?

[golf clap]

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/30 "2012-08-09T22:04:23Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Should have shoved her in the cart, wheeled it around back of the store and left it there.

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Or refused to let her leave because she didn’t “keep her receipt out for viewing.”

Or just put her on sale.

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**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/31 "2012-08-09T22:18:13Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Or just put her on sale.

How low would the discount have to go before someone would buy her?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/32 "2012-08-10T00:04:09Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Did you know she even had a book out before you heard about this stunt?
> 
> Case closed.

I did. She was on Colbert the other night. In fairness, I assumed she was dead until I saw that.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/33 "2012-08-10T00:07:42Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Can we all agree that you forgo your voting privileges the moment you invoke the first amendment right to free speech for things that clearly do not fall under such protections, i.e. stores not selling a particular book, criticizing someone for something they said publicly, etc.

Hey, absolutely! With the additional caveat that it also makes one ineligible to hold office.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/34 "2012-08-10T00:51:36Z")

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There is a recent documentary about JR that really increased my respect for her and her career. She never slows down and is always hustling for her next gig.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/35 "2012-08-10T01:02:52Z")

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The First Amendment means you can say whatever you want, and everyone has to agree with you, and also they have to give you money.

Did you not even READ the arguments from Christians about Chick-Fil-A?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/36 "2012-08-10T01:17:57Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Did you know she even had a book out before you heard about this stunt?
> 
> Case closed.

I did, but only because I watch _The Colbert Report._

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/37 "2012-08-10T01:19:12Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> There is a recent documentary about JR that really increased my respect for her and her career. She never slows down and is always hustling for her next gig.

So’s yo’ mamma when the fleet’s in, but where’s her documentary?! [rimshot]

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/38 "2012-08-10T02:12:47Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> knowing that she has a book out does not inspire in me a desire to buy that book.

Then clearly you are also denying Ms Rivers her First Amendment rights. You’re now on the list of people she will be handcuffing herself to as part of her promotional tour.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/39 "2012-08-10T02:39:45Z")

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Sure, she can handcuff herself to me. She will get the full benefit of Lynn’s Tuneup and Realignment Services. I do my best work at close quarters.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joan-rivers-is-an-idiot-first-amendment-does-not-mean-costco-has-to-sell-your-book/630973/40 "2012-08-10T03:04:22Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Sure, she can handcuff herself to me. She will get the full benefit of Lynn’s Tuneup and Realignment Services. I do my best work at close quarters.

Good luck. I gather that most of the parts are aftermarket.

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