# Jobs reserved for women **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 7, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825 "2010-07-07T07:18:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/21 "2010-07-08T02:18:13Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > PE teachers might be required to be of the same sex as their students since part of their job involves supervising their students in their lockerrooms. I’ve seen co-ed PE classes. That particular teacher doesn’t have to supervise the lockerroom, just someone does. It can probably even be a school aide with the power to give out detentions. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/22 "2010-07-08T02:18:57Z")
> [@scifisam2009](#): > > …Those people who come round schools and give talks on ‘growing up,’ usually separating the girls from the boys? The girls’ teacher would be much better given to a woman - hard enough to teach pre-teen and teen girls about menstruation and sanitary products if the person doing it is a man. Boys & girls were seperated for the STD slideshow in 11th grade, but the school nurse and one of our class advisors (both women) were present in the auditorium as well as a woman from the public health department. AFAIK there weren’t any male teachers there when the girls had their turn, but for some reason the girls had to sit through both slideshows (diseased penises _and_ vaginas). The boys just had to look at diseased penises and the odd anus. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/23 "2010-07-08T02:34:34Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Boys & girls were seperated for the STD slideshow in 11th grade, but the school nurse and one of our class advisors (both women) were present in the auditorium as well as a woman from the public health department. AFAIK there weren’t any male teachers there when the girls had their turn, but for some reason the girls had to sit through both slideshows (diseased penises _and_ vaginas). The boys just had to look at diseased penises and the odd anus. I missed out a couple of words: I meant to say ‘it’s hard enough for anyone to teach pre-teen and teen girls about menstruation and sanitary products, even harder if the person doing it is a man.’ ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/24 "2010-07-08T02:40:07Z")
> [@scifisam2009](#): > > . . . it’s harder to find a man called Mary. Obviously you and I travel in different circles. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/25 "2010-07-08T04:05:32Z")
> [@Keeve](#): > > First Lady of the United States? That would fall under the King’s Consort exception. The footnote is also applicable, even if the president is male. As far as President of Ireland, there’s only been two women in a row in that position. Not quite enough to establish a tradition. There’s been 14 female [Treasurers of the US](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasurer_of_the_United_States), which makes for quite a tradition. (new link – the one in the OP was broken) The election for Irish President is next year, so we’ll see if the voters see a tradition as having been established. As far as the other suggestions, I’m really looking for positions for which there’s no biological or psychological reason for women always getting the job, but they do anyway. And for the suggestion of **nun** , if a man wants to join a holy order, he becomes a monk. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/26 "2010-07-08T04:21:39Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > PE teachers might be required to be of the same sex as their students since part of their job involves supervising their students in their lockerrooms. Whoa. It does? I took PE in high school (male) and I’m quite sure my (male) teacher never supervised us _in the locker room_. That just seems like a recipe for scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/27 "2010-07-08T06:59:26Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Lingerie model. Tightie whities are lingerie too, and they’re not modeled by women. ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/28 "2010-07-08T07:32:02Z")
HR rep. I had a teacher in college who said his first Major was for human resources. A teacher of his said “good luck getting a job!” When he asked why, he said all human resources jobs are given to women to help fill out their diversity requirements. In my experience, I’ve never met anyone who works in HR that’s male. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/29 "2010-07-08T09:13:11Z")
> [@scifisam2009](#): > > Re: the toilet attendant. For the type of toilet attendant that sits there dispensing perfume and soap, in some bars (or dispensing pretty much everything in some parts of Eastern Europe) the attendant has to be a woman. Many years ago, I visited the Gent’s toilet in a Belgian railway station. The permanent attendant was a lady. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/30 "2010-07-08T14:20:48Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > In my experience, I’ve never met anyone who works in HR that’s male. Your experience must be very limited. I have met and interacted with numerous male HR leaders and underlings. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/31 "2010-07-08T20:18:29Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Whoa. It does? I took PE in high school (male) and I’m quite sure my (male) teacher never supervised us _in the locker room_. That just seems like a recipe for scandal. “Recipe for scandal” :dubious:? Except for roll call he usually stayed in the office with glass windows overlooking the lockerroom; it’s not like he sat in a chair outside the showers (which would be rather pointless as nobody used them). Leaving a group of students unsupervised for an length of time was heavily frowed upon at my HS. Even when the teachers had to step into the hall to talk to someone they were supposed to stand so they could see into their classroom. Granted not all of the teachers followed that protocol strictly, but on paper they were supposed too. [QUOTE=Cardinal] I’ve seen co-ed PE classes. That particular teacher doesn’t have to supervise the lockerroom, just someone does. It can probably even be a school aide with the power to give out detentions. [/QUOTE] True, but my point was that a school district can legally insist on hiring a teacher of a particular sex (to ensure they had at least one PE teacher of each sex). At my HS the PE classes were single-sex _on paper_, but a boys’ gym class and a girls’ were always schedualed at the same time and it was up to the teachers wether they wanted to run their own seperate activities (& wether to let students pick which activity to do) or run one joint-activity. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/32 "2010-07-08T21:14:55Z")
Lactation consultant? (There was an episode of The Office with a male one though…) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/33 "2010-07-08T21:22:28Z")
> [@vislor](#): > > Yes, but Hooters has been sued over it. [http://www.avvo.com/news/man-sues-hooters-over-gender-discrimination-121.html](http://www.avvo.com/news/man-sues-hooters-over-gender-discrimination-121.html) Nice URL-shortening 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/34 "2010-07-08T21:34:21Z")
In the last hospital I worked in, there was a ‘women’s floor’ which combined the delivery suites and the OB surgery recovery units. All of the personnel on the floor, the nurses, nurses aides, HUCs, janitorial staff, everyone on the floor except for about half of the docs were all female. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/35 "2010-07-08T21:41:55Z")
> [@SmartAlecCat](#): > > Lactation consultant? Or, more obviously… Wetnurse. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/36 "2010-07-08T21:47:36Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > In the last hospital I worked in, there was a ‘women’s floor’ which combined the delivery suites and the OB surgery recovery units. All of the personnel on the floor, the nurses, nurses aides, HUCs, janitorial staff, everyone on the floor except for about half of the docs were all female. Women’s shelters usually have whole floors were male staff (if there’s any to begin with) aren’t allowed. Also most rape trauma counselors are women; the few male counselors usually only deal with male rape victims (ironic since most of their clients would have been raped by men). ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/37 "2010-07-09T00:19:41Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > In my experience, I’ve never met anyone who works in HR that’s male. I have. And the man in question **was** the HR department (i.e. it was a small enough company that there was an HR person, not a multi-person HR department). ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/38 "2010-07-09T00:29:07Z")
Surrogate mother. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/39 "2010-07-09T00:47:35Z")
Pat down security guard for women? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825/40 "2010-07-09T02:16:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Pat down security guard for women? Don’t think so. I remember seeing some recent news stories about complaints from women that TSA screeners (male) were inappropriately touching them at airport checkpoints. And the times I’ve seen them, passengers seemed to be ‘patted down’ by any available TSA worker – there seemed to be no effort to match gender. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jobs-reserved-for-women/545825.md?page=3)