# Joe Arpaio is running for US Senate seat. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 9, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246 "2018-01-09T16:38:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/21 "2018-01-09T20:41:24Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > I’d be willing to be that he’s more popular outside of Maricopa County than inside of it. He’s annoyingly popular outside of Arizona. Tough “law and order” guys always have a following. They’ve never had to deal with the downside on a daily basis - the lawsuits specifically, but the general buffoonery as well. They may have found the abuses of power something they would have liked, though. Other than the politics, Arizona is a nice place to live. But the politics! Ugh. We may not get Arpaio, but we might get “Chemtrail Kelli”. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/22 "2018-01-09T21:13:54Z")
Considering that he lost the election for sheriff a couple of years ago, I wouldn’t count on his popularity in Maricopa County either. 2016 Sheriff’s election, Maricopa County: Penzone (D) - 665,478 (55.6%) Arpaio ® - 531,674 (44.4%) Total votes: 1,197,152 For comparison, Maricopa County Senate election results, 2016: McCain ® - 653,754 (54.9%) Kirkpatrick (D) - 475,311 (39.9%) Swing (Green) - 62,749 (5.3%) Total votes: 1,191,814 So very comparable vote numbers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/23 "2018-01-09T21:32:21Z")
Johnny Ace, you’re probably right, but if the Bannon/Mercer conservative takes enough votes from the ‘establishment’ candidate and those most stalwart Arpaio voters stick with him, well, we’ve already seen what can happen in Alabama. But he is 85 and according to rumors, hearsay, and innuendo, he’s mentally ‘not all there’. And as others have pointed out, it will energize the opposition something fierce. Not that this appears to be a insolvable problem in American politics (and I’m not just talking about the present, check out our interesting history sometime). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/24 "2018-01-09T21:41:46Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Factually incorrect. Bricker, this is the kind of post that gets people annoyed with you. If you believe a post is factually incorrect, don’t simply declare it is so. Explain what the correct facts are. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/25 "2018-01-09T21:45:50Z")
Maybe **Bricker** was referring to this when he said “factually incorrect”: > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No one better than Arpaio to motivate young and Latino Democrats in Arizona to register and vote. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/26 "2018-01-09T21:53:35Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Johnny Ace, you’re probably right, but if the Bannon/Mercer conservative takes enough votes from the ‘establishment’ candidate and those most stalwart Arpaio voters stick with him, well, we’ve already seen what can happen in Alabama. > > But he is 85 and according to rumors, hearsay, and innuendo, he’s mentally ‘not all there’. And as others have pointed out, it will energize the opposition something fierce. > > Not that this appears to be a insolvable problem in American politics (and I’m not just talking about the present, check out our interesting history sometime). There’s also the Green party candidate (whoever he is) that will run and suck votes away from the Democrat. I wouldn’t make any kind of prediction on this one, other than that my general sense is that Arpaio would lose. And none of my senses are reliable since Nov. of 2016. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/27 "2018-01-09T22:35:13Z")
The good thing is that Arizona Democrats don’t tend to be especially pure and most understand they don’t have the luxury of throwing their votes away on silly Green party candidates. Immigration issues shouldn’t dominate in 2018 unless the economy heads seriously south. Arizona was walloped in the housing crisis and Jan Brewer and the Republicans hid their tax increases behind the stupid ‘papers please’ law. The Democrats do need to make sure they don’t make DACA a hill to die on, however. Get something done, but don’t make it front page news for months at a time. Arpaio might be able to raise money out of state, but I wonder how much serious donations will an 85 year old first time Senate candidate will get during a year which is shaping up to be a Democratic wave. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/28 "2018-01-09T23:24:40Z")
Bear in mind one other point: the Sheriff’s election in 2016 happened two weeks _before_ Arpaio was indicted. I’d expect at least a little blowback from that scenario as well. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/29 "2018-01-09T23:35:15Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/trump-ally-ex-sheriff-joe-arpaio-running-for-arizona-us-senate-seat.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/trump-ally-ex-sheriff-joe-arpaio-running-for-arizona-us-senate-seat.html) > > From the link. > > “Trump ally and pardoned sheriff Joe Arpaio is running for Jeff Flake’s Senate seat in Arizona” > I can’t say I’m surprised. What are his chances? Not what you’d expect **not what you’d expect** ; not what you’d expect. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/30 "2018-01-09T23:39:43Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Bricker, this is the kind of post that gets people annoyed with you. > > If you believe a post is factually incorrect, don’t simply declare it is so. Explain what the correct facts are. The shitty thing is declaring the entire post factually incorrect when it is not. ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/31 "2018-01-10T00:23:45Z")
Arpaio vs Kyrsten Sinema, the likely dem candidate… Who wins? tbh I’ve been puzzled why everyone considers her to be such a strong recruit. She’s a bisexual agnostic running in Arizona… this to me sounds like a poor fit for a southwestern purple state. With her last name, the attack ads practically write themselves. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/32 "2018-01-10T04:49:03Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > Arpaio vs Kyrsten Sinema, the likely dem candidate… Who wins? > > tbh I’ve been puzzled why everyone considers her to be such a strong recruit. She’s a bisexual agnostic running in Arizona… this to me sounds like a poor fit for a southwestern purple state. With her last name, the attack ads practically write themselves. [Joker] This town needs a Sinema! [/J] And when you consider that we did when we got rid of Arpaio in the past election, I see that a similar thing will take place in the senate election. Over here in Arizona even Republicans did notice that some of their leaders do cost dearly to the treasury with their pursuit of their extremist views (not only on the money wasted defending the likes of Arpaio, but with the lost opportunities when businesses avoided coming to Arizona when Arapaio and law maker henchmen where making bigoted laws and enforcing them.) We really need to purge all those Republican congress critters. Specially when they are clearly incompetent and with the ugliest character. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/33 "2018-01-10T06:30:31Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > She’s a bisexual agnostic running in Arizona… this to me sounds like a poor fit for a southwestern purple state. Arizona is one of the less religious states, and I think it’s the only state where a referendum against gay marriage failed back when those were in vogue (it later passed in a watered-down form, but I think there were no other states where the harshest version of the ban was put up for a vote but failed). ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/34 "2018-01-10T12:46:52Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Not what you’d expect **not what you’d expect** ; not what you’d expect. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/35 "2018-01-11T00:17:33Z")
Would it be wrong if I thought it would be great if Joe Arpaio was to suffer a stroke and brain damage that left him completely paralyzed, in immense physical agony, and fully conscious but intermittently afflicted with terrifying hallucinations and periodic drops in dopamine and serotonin levels that turned his consciousness into a _Black Mirror_-style nightmare? I’m truly thinking about whether or not this would be wrong. You know, I think it _would_ be wrong. If I’m going to fantasize about things, my fantasy should be something positive. So my fantasy is going to be that Joe Arpaio spontaneously decides to donate all of his assets to the families of all the people he hurt and killed, delivers a vociferous speech completely disavowing and denouncing the abuses of the US penal system and admitting that he was a part of it and apologizing for it, and then takes a vow of poverty and goes to live in a monastery and spends the rest of his existence asking God for forgiveness and performing labor at the monastery to produce some kind of item that is sold to raise money to be contributed to help the needy. Yes, that’s going to my fantasy about Joe Arpaio. Definitely. Really. I’m not going to think that first thing anymore. I’m seriously going to try to not think it at all. In fact I am trying right now. Very hard. Life is a series of trials. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/36 "2018-01-11T00:24:56Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So there is the “establishment” Republican candidate (Martha McSally), the one backed by the “Bannon/Mercer” team (Kelli Ward), and Arpaio (will he get Trump’s backing?). > > Could get rather interesting. > > Oh, and Chimera asked: > > Well, Maricopa county has (including Phoenix) right about 60% of the entire population of the state of Arizona, so if he has a strong base there, well… > > Could Alabama history repeat? Stay tuned for further developments. Revenge Porner Craig Brittain is also running for the Republican nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/37 "2018-01-11T00:29:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > There’s also the Green party candidate (whoever he is) that will run and suck votes away from the Democrat. I wouldn’t make any kind of prediction on this one, other than that my general sense is that Arpaio would lose. And none of my senses are reliable since Nov. of 2016. 😃 The Green candidate is Eve Reyes Aguirre - [https://www.evereyesaguirre.com/](https://www.evereyesaguirre.com/) The Democrats include former Iowa state Representative Richard Sherzan and Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/38 "2018-01-11T00:34:56Z")
I read today that theres no less than 4 convicted felons running for congress this year … ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/39 "2018-01-11T13:18:27Z")
[Not all felons, but convicted, yes.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-arpaio-2018-election_us_5a563b5ae4b03417e8743168) All on the ticket of the party of Law and Order. Arpaio’s candidacy makes the AZ GOP primary a train wreck. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246/40 "2018-01-11T14:59:51Z")
He’s now reviving [birtherism.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-arpaio-obama-birth-certificate_us_5a572bc1e4b0a300f905f893) > [@](#): > > Arizona Senate candidate and convicted criminal Joe Arpaio on Wednesday questioned the authenticity of former President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, a revival of a racist conspiracy theory championed for years by President Donald Trump. > > “It’s a phony document,” Arpaio told CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Wednesday, claiming to have “evidence” that he document isn’t real, but providing no proof for his allegation. > > “We have the evidence, nobody will talk about it, nobody will look at it, and anytime you want to come down or anybody we’ll be glad to show you the evidence,” said Arpaio, who announced his Senate run this week. We have evidences, we does! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-arpaio-is-running-for-us-senate-seat/806246.md?page=3)