# Joe Biden assault accusation part 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 7, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366 "2020-05-07T23:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/1 "2020-05-07T23:21:31Z")
Accuser Tara Reade says she will go under oath and also allow people to ask her questions while under oath. She will take a polygraph if Biden takes one. [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/us/politics/tara-reade-megyn-kelly-interview.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/us/politics/tara-reade-megyn-kelly-interview.html) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/2 "2020-05-07T23:40:00Z")
I hope it isn’t true, but even if it is I’m still voting Biden. I don’t see how sitting out this election helps anyone. But if its true its disappointing that Biden ran so many times. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/3 "2020-05-07T23:44:13Z")
Up until now, I thought she was just mentally ill and getting some pressure from die hard Bernie people. Now, I’m thinking there may be some money involved for her to pop up for a 3rd time. I can’t keep track of all her scams but many of them involve money. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/4 "2020-05-07T23:55:26Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I hope it isn’t true, but even if it is I’m still voting Biden. I don’t see how sitting out this election helps anyone. > > But if its true its disappointing that Biden ran so many times. If it’s true it’s _also_ disappointing that the potentially First Black President was _so_ indifferent to his electoral success, that he failed to do basic vetting of his prospective Vice President. (Or perhaps “difficult to believe” is more appropriate, here.) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/5 "2020-05-08T00:13:58Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If it’s true it’s _also_ disappointing that the potentially First Black President was _so_ indifferent to his electoral success, that he failed to do basic vetting of his prospective Vice President. > > (Or perhaps “difficult to believe” is more appropriate, here.) As well as the guy running against Obama, that guy McCain had spent a little time in the Senate himself ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/6 "2020-05-08T00:15:14Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If it’s true it’s _also_ disappointing that the potentially First Black President was _so_ indifferent to his electoral success, that he failed to do basic vetting of his prospective Vice President. > > (Or perhaps “difficult to believe” is more appropriate, here.) I don’t know if this is a whoosh, but Biden was thoroughly vetted by Obama’s election team in 2008. > [@](#): > > Through that entire process, the name Tara Reade never came up. No formal complaint. No informal chatter. Certainly, no intimation of sexual harassment or assault from her or anyone else. The team of investigators, expert in their work, would not have missed it. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/7 "2020-05-08T00:18:54Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I hope it isn’t true, but even if it is I’m still voting Biden. I don’t see how sitting out this election helps anyone. Yeah. I mean, we are down to a choice of a guy who maybe assaulted one woman and a guy who maybe assaulted over 20 women to be the next president. I want to change realities. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/8 "2020-05-08T00:20:06Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t know if this is a whoosh, but Biden was thoroughly vetted by Obama’s election team in 2008. I do not think this means as much as you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/9 "2020-05-08T00:20:38Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If it’s true it’s _also_ disappointing that the potentially First Black President was _so_ indifferent to his electoral success, that he failed to do basic vetting of his prospective Vice President. > > (Or perhaps “difficult to believe” is more appropriate, here.) Yeah but Obama’s pastor didn’t become an issue until well into his run for president. Neither did Trumps access hollywood tape. Candidates have things come out well into their run. However one would assume that the obama team would’ve gone over all of bidens records before picking him. I know Christine O’Donnells niece keeps making up stories about Biden at an event he didn’t even attend. I’m hoping Reade’s story is the same (a motivated hit job). But even if not, Biden is still vastly superior to another 4 years of Trump. Bidens cabinet, legislation and judicial picks will be vastly better. Its just disappointing if true that in 2020 that these are the options. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/10 "2020-05-08T00:22:44Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t know if this is a whoosh, but Biden was thoroughly vetted by Obama’s election team in 2008. > [https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html) It was kinda sarcasm, combined with reminding people how unlikely it is that a credible accusation against Biden would have been missed by the Obama team. > [@dalej42](#): > > As well as the guy running against Obama, that guy McCain had spent a little time in the Senate himself Good point. McCain’s people would have been looking for dirt, and looking hard. I mean, anything is possible. But when it comes to events for which certainty is never going to be achieved, you have to look at the issue of plausibility. I’m in favor of investigation of the accusation. I’m not so much in favor of _either_ ignoring Trump’s many accusers in favor of mass coverage of Ms. Reade, _or_ of mainstream-media outlets who are desperate for a horse-race. Some of them, hoping for lots of Drama, may therefore give us a repeat of 2016: treating every accusation against the Dem with great seriousness and constant attention, while ignoring Donny and his Grand-Central-Station’s worth of baggage. I would hope that won’t be the way it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/11 "2020-05-08T00:27:39Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > …However one would assume that the obama team would’ve gone over all of bidens records before picking him. It’s difficult to believe otherwise, or at least that’s the case for fair-minded people. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > But even if not, Biden is still vastly superior to another 4 years of Trump. Bidens cabinet, legislation and judicial picks will be vastly better. Its just disappointing if true that in 2020 that these are the options. Yes to all that. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/12 "2020-05-08T00:28:55Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I do not think this means as much as you think it means. That’s OK. I believe both Biden and his investigators. Your opinion is actually irrelevant to me. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/13 "2020-05-08T00:40:51Z")
[San Luis Obispo _Tribune_ article](https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html) claims to have found a 1996 court document indicating that Reade told her then-husband about "“sexual harassment in US Senator Joe Biden’s office”. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/14 "2020-05-08T00:50:16Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > [San Luis Obispo _Tribune_ article](https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html) claims to have found a 1996 court document indicating that Reade told her then-husband about "“sexual harassment in US Senator Joe Biden’s office”. Half the story though: > [@](#): > > The declaration — exclusively obtained by The Tribune in San Luis Obispo, California — does not say Biden committed the harassment nor does it mention Reade’s more recent allegations of sexual assault. Almost looks like an attempt to smear. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/15 "2020-05-08T00:52:09Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > [San Luis Obispo _Tribune_ article](https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html) claims to have found a 1996 court document indicating that Reade told her then-husband about "“sexual harassment in US Senator Joe Biden’s office”. The headline makes it sound like a smoking gun, but she didn’t mention assault, and she didn’t mention Biden (as the harasser), so it’s actually exculpatory. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/16 "2020-05-08T01:01:46Z")
This is going to be the “but her emails” of 2020, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/17 "2020-05-08T01:05:43Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > The headline makes it sound like a smoking gun, but she didn’t mention assault, and she didn’t mention Biden (as the harasser), so it’s actually exculpatory. But was he “in the room when it happened”? )(\*Hamilton \*earworm time.) ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/18 "2020-05-08T01:34:13Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > … but she didn’t mention assault, and she didn’t mention Biden (as the harasser), so it’s actually exculpatory. The source of the statement is her ex-husband, not Reade herself. So there’s nothing there that rules out Biden as the perp, nor assault as the offense. Nor, of course, are those more than possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/19 "2020-05-08T01:55:38Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Accuser Tara Reade says she will go under oath and also allow people to ask her questions while under oath. She will take a polygraph if Biden takes one. Anyone can make themselves look more credible by saying they’re willing to take a polygraph. But you put enough conditions on it that you never have to actually sit down at the table. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366/20 "2020-05-08T01:59:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > This is going to be the “but her emails” of 2020, isn’t it? Yup. And just like her emails, the trump team will commit the exact same crimes except brazenly and shamelessly. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-biden-assault-accusation-part-2/853366.md?page=2)