# Joe Biden's in **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 25, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-bidens-in/833042 "2019-04-25T16:13:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 173
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-bidens-in/833042/173 "2019-05-08T03:40:01Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t think Biden’s big lead over the rest of the field means anything at this point. Hillary Clinton started out with a commanding lead over Barack Obama in 2008. In fact she took a 10-12 point lead in the spring of 2007 and opened it up to a 28 point lead in October of that same year - we know how that turned out. In may of 2015, Hillary Clinton led Bernie Sanders 63 - 8, and we know how THAT turned out. … She won the nomination handily? His lead does not mean he is a sure thing to win. It almost certainly will tighten up. Bill Clinton came up from 5% in August '91 to win. But saying that it doesn’t mean _anything_? Bill Clinton came up from 5% because he was an amazing campaigner with outsized oratory skills who connected with wide swaths of voters. Hillary Clinton lost despite a commanding lead because she was running against someone with similar skills and abilities. Biden will likely not get the nom if someone demonstrates those mad skillz this time. Too soon to say that they won’t. But if no one shows those chops he’s the default nominee. The early numbers at least mean that thing. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-bidens-in/833042)._