# Joe Burrow Opinions? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 28, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090 "2020-01-28T01:17:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/41 "2020-02-10T20:18:10Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Really the only thing that sucks about the Bengals is their owner and their linebackers. Their oline showed vast improvement over the last 5-6 games (Mixon ran wild, Dalton had some protection). Jonah Williams is coming back from season-ending injury, as is AJ Green. We have Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon, a great fron four on defense ans a decent secondary loaded with talent. > > We also have draft picks 2-7. Our 2nd pick is 33 and it’s hugely important. They need to go OL or LB there and take the BPA for either of those positions. > > I think Zac Taylor’s system with a talented young QB will work in Cincinnati. At this point I just want to win a playoff game! > > Ah, one more thing: Mike Brown is going to be forced to spend money in FA and he has a LOT of cap space and has to spend to the floor. The Bengals NEVER sign anyone of note in FA. Ever. Maybe that will change this year. The only things that suck about the Bengals are the linebackers and owner? If that was the case they wouldn’t currently own the #1 draft pick. A better example of a team where only the linebackers and owner sucks would be the 1992 - 1995 Dallas Cowboys. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/42 "2020-02-10T21:32:30Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > The only things that suck about the Bengals are the linebackers and owner? If that was the case they wouldn’t currently own the #1 draft pick. A better example of a team where only the linebackers and owner sucks would be the 1992 - 1995 Dallas Cowboys. LOL, yeah, but my post was really meant to demonstrate that they have talent. They lost 8 of their 14 games by a score or less, and that’s with a rookie HC, injuries galore, benching Andy Dalton for 4 games, etc. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/43 "2020-02-10T21:45:12Z")
> [@fjs1fs](#): > > Do you really think that’s the only difference between Montana and Plummer? Of course not, and I wasn’t really trying to compare the two. It’s just to say that there aren’t that many legendary quarterbacks on bad teams (not saying that Shanahan’s Broncos were bad either). No QB does it on their own - they have to have a good structure to work with or they’re not going to put up the numbers they would otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/44 "2020-02-10T22:04:43Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Any QB who can rip up the Alabama defense is NFL-ready. Tim Tebow is still available. Burrow is as close to a sure thing as you can get with a rookie QB. But that doesn’t make him a real sure thing. Looking at his mechanics and his college performance only gets you so far. It will all come down to how well he can read coverage in the 1-2 seconds it takes for him to do a 2-3 step drop at NFL speed. If forced to make a bet I would put money on him doing well but who really knows? It will be fun to watch. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/45 "2020-02-11T05:46:11Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > **Tim Tebow is still available.** > > Burrow is as close to a sure thing as you can get with a rookie QB. But that doesn’t make him a real sure thing. Looking at his mechanics and his college performance only gets you so far. It will all come down to how well he can read coverage in the 1-2 seconds it takes for him to do a 2-3 step drop at NFL speed. If forced to make a bet I would put money on him doing well but who really knows? It will be fun to watch. Man, if Tebow came to the Bengals, AND they hired Jon Kitna as their QB coach, there’d be an excess of crucifix armbands/headbands and pre and post-game prayer circles. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/46 "2020-02-11T14:01:23Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Man, if Tebow came to the Bengals, AND they hired Jon Kitna as their QB coach, there’d be an excess of crucifix armbands/headbands and pre and post-game prayer circles. You’d have games with Steelers vs Kneelers. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/47 "2020-02-11T21:31:57Z")
I’m a little late to the thread, but I’ll add my likely redundant thoughts anyways… Burrow is as good of a QB prospect as I have ever seen. I’m very interested to see what his measurables are at the Combine mostly to see if he falls short anywhere. If he does it’ll be interesting to see the mental gymnastics people go through to mark him down. If I were to play devil’s advocate here’s where I’d start nitpicking: 1. He’s basically a one-year-wonder. His 2018 was pretty good and you saw a lot of the seeds for what he’d do in 2019, but his overall body of work wasn’t outstanding. 2. He’s not a physical freak. He doesn’t have elite speed, elite size, elite arm strength etc. Obviously none of that held him back this year, but maybe, just maybe, in the Pros it catches up with him, enough to make him just “ok” in the NFL. 3. He’s old. At 23 years old he’s out of band for the ideal age range for a rookie. As a QB this really doesn’t matter a lot, but for other positions this would mean that 1-2 years of his “prime” is already used up. 4. He couldn’t win the starting job at OSU. Somebody will dig up some background that points to him being a risk because of this. They’ll probably use the same copy they used for Aikman back in the day. 5. Mitch Trubisky. Somebody will 100%, without a doubt, compare Burrow to Trubisky. Just wait. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/48 "2020-02-11T21:41:33Z")
After reading the rest of the thread…you all spent way too many calories dissecting something Hub Arkush said. The dude is a asshat of the highest order. I feel like this is some corollary of Hanlon’s Razor, if Arkush says it you should always start from the assumption that it’s totally and completely wrong until proven otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/49 "2020-02-11T22:38:11Z")
Joe Burrow reminds me of Mitch Trubisky. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/50 "2020-02-11T22:53:48Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > My prediction is that Joe Burrow is going to end up more like a Baker Mayfield or Mitch Trubisky rather than a Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson due to his going to a Bengals team that sucks. If somehow a team that is talented but just needs a QB somehow trade up to take him, he would have a much better chance of being a success. Am example of such a team this year would be the Titans. > [@Hamlet](#): > > Joe Burrow reminds me of Mitch Trubisky. You weren’t even the first in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090/51 "2020-02-12T06:59:04Z")
No, Joe Burrow reminds himself of Trubiskey, only on the merits of same state, similar awards, etc. Nobody’s ever had a year like Burrow. He had a broken hand for part of the season at OSU which held him back. I truly believe he’ll be all right anywhere he goes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-burrow-opinions/847090.md?page=2)