# Joe Fuel Cells

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-fuel-cells/86694>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 11, 2001, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-fuel-cells/86694 "2001-10-11T00:42:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![FloChi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58956e/32.png) [@FloChi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloChi)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-fuel-cells/86694/1 "2001-10-11T00:42:05Z")

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My friend was just telling me about these. They come from Orgone energy, for those unfamiliar with the theory, here is a link to Cecil’s column: [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3\_073.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_073.html)

Another thread expounding on more of his theories is: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=36388](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=36388)

Now these apparently work like a electrosis machine. Apparently using a low-powered electrolsis machine (about 12V and 10 amp) it will produce a thrid mysterious gas and this will power the engine without producing heat. Or needing refueling. Here is a web site supporting it:  
[http://www.emfsafe.com/links.htm](http://www.emfsafe.com/links.htm) At least it is the top set of links. [http://www.educate-yourself.org/fejoewatercell.html](http://www.educate-yourself.org/fejoewatercell.html)

However I can’t find any forms of refutation for it on the web. Am I looking up the wrong stuff? I tried telling him that perpetual machines cannot work, he replied that the orgone energy (or some other mysterious energy) was being tapped into and this was powering the car.

Anybody know where I could find more arguments against this stuff?

Thanks for your response. And suspend the belief to believe.  
FloChi

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-fuel-cells/86694/2 "2001-10-11T01:12:01Z")

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Try [here first.](http://skepdic.com/orgone.html)