# Joe Millionaire 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2003, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810 "2003-09-10T18:37:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/21 "2003-10-21T17:04:39Z")
The geography lesson was painful to watch. I winced when David asked, “Where’s Dutch?” > [@](#): > > … whatever it takes for money, eh Fox? The NY Times, in a review of Skin, has this to say about the network: > [@](#): > > FOx has figured out that at prime time, it is better to reign in hell than serve in heaven. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/22 "2003-10-21T17:19:02Z")
So i watched this then refused to watch Skin. I’m not sure what that says about my taste in TV shows. ---
**Author:** ![NFlanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@NFlanders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NFlanders)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/23 "2003-10-21T17:30:08Z")
I loved how he was totally in love with his horse. I don’t think he’s even interested in women :eek: All in all, the first episode was hilarious. (paraphrasing) Paul: I’m your butler. JM: Yes sir. Paul: That means you should call me Paul. JM: Yes sir. Paul looks at the camera. Great TV. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/24 "2003-10-21T17:57:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElvisL1ves \* > \*\*David could not have been able to keep up his role in this very easily. Maybe his attending the World Series alone is a hint to us? \*\* Well, if he would have shown up at the World Series with one of the contestants, we would have known who “wins”. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/25 "2003-10-21T18:12:24Z")
At the WS they went to great pains to show he was alone – the seats next to him were vacant (and could’ve been sold to a baseball fan, but that’s a rant for another day.) “euroslut”: I like it. I like the “hang out on ranch/go clubbing” question, like that dichotomy summarizes all the possible choices in his existence. Fox’s choices about subtitles was weird — they put subtitles on women who had no discernible accent and were speaking perfectly plainly. I think some of these women spoke better English than our hero. As a matter of fact, the command of English that most of these women showed is suspicious. Completely unaccented; using words like “humongous”–even swearing in English. Doesn’t seem right… ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/26 "2003-10-21T19:39:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Isabelle \* > Was Joe Millionaire 2 filmed back-to-back with Joe 1? A co-worker told me they filmed **Joe Millionare** 1-4(!) back-to-back-to-back-to-back, and will be airing them as time goes by. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/27 "2003-10-21T23:27:13Z")
They were scary, especially the really tanned Swedish hag who wore sunglasses all the time. There was one really pretty one, I thought–chin length brown hair and blue eyes–no clue on her name. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/28 "2003-10-21T23:54:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\*A co-worker told me they filmed **Joe Millionare** 1-4(!) back-to-back-to-back-to-back, and will be airing them as time goes by. \*\* Your co-worker is dead wrong. The one major regret Fox had when they released the first _Joe Millionaire_ was that they **hadn’t** filmed two episodes simultaneously, because now they can’t find women who don’t know about the secret anywhere in America. That’s why _Joe Millionaire 2_ **had** to be “An International Affaire.” They scrounged around in various Eurpoean countries where the first _Joe Millionaire_ had never aired, and somehow managed to find 14 women who had never heard of the show and who were at least mildly good-looking enough to cast in _Joe Millionaire 2_. (This might also explain why the women in the premiere last night seemed so “skanky.” Maybe all the classy Eurpoean women had heard of _Joe Millionaire_!) ---
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/29 "2003-10-21T23:59:51Z")
I saw a lot of previews and a very small part of the show as I wasn’t home. I am appauled in how ugly those women are! Too tanned, superficial, yikes… They are in no way representative of Europe believe me… I am French. I just went on the Fox web-site to see which one(s) was French as the previews kept saying “oui, oui” and “how do you say sucker in French?”… Not one is from France. That cracked me up. I have to admit I am relieved because they would have found a dumb, gold-digger as well. I find this poor guy unbelievably not attractive… We’ll see later if he rises in my ‘esteem’. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/30 "2003-10-22T01:58:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jsc1953 \* > Fox’s choices about subtitles was weird — they put subtitles on women who had no discernible accent and were speaking perfectly plainly. I think some of these women spoke better English than our hero. And this is exactly why I will not watch this one. The subtitles for perfect english were driving me CRAZY. It suddenly occurred to me that if the producers think I’m so stupid that I can’t understand these women speaking, then I’m stupid for continuing to watch and proving them right. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/31 "2003-10-22T01:58:23Z")
Y’know I was thinking. Maybe this explains why **Coldfire** who lives in Europe has decided to forgo the Euroskanks and date an Ameribabe. I always suspected there must be a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Aankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aankh)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/32 "2003-10-22T05:05:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > \*\*Y’know I was thinking. Maybe this explains why **Coldfire** who lives in Europe has decided to forgo the Euroskanks and date an Ameribabe. > > I always suspected there must be a reason. \*\* Wasn’t the first Joe show full of Ameribabes? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Aankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aankh)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/33 "2003-10-22T05:09:28Z")
For that matter, doesn’t the current pussy posse _know_ what happened in Joe the First? I mean, it’s all over the internet, no? If you were participating in a show, wouldn’t you do some research first? It boggles the mind. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/34 "2003-10-22T06:06:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KSO \* > \*\*There was one really pretty one, I thought–chin length brown hair and blue eyes–no clue on her name. \*\* I noticed her, too. She was the only one worth noticing, IMHO. Go her! Whatever her name was. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/35 "2003-10-22T16:26:59Z")
[Linda](http://www.fox.com/joem/bios/linda.htm) from the Czech Republic is the cute brown-haired lady in question. Though not the cutest, [Tereza](http://www.fox.com/joem/bios/tereza.htm), also from the Czech Republic, seemed the nicest/least shallow. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/36 "2003-10-22T22:06:48Z")
"The subtitles for perfect english were driving me CRAZY. " I got closed captions on top of subtitles sometimes. I don’t know which one to read. The women all pretty much look older than him too. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/37 "2003-10-23T12:09:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jsc1953 \* > \*\*As a matter of fact, the command of English that most of these women showed is suspicious. Completely unaccented; using words like “humongous”–even swearing in English. Doesn’t seem right… \*\* You’d be surprised at the command of English shown by many young Europeans. I didn’t see the show, but most Swedish women in their 20s would understand “humungous” and a good portion of them would speak unaccented English. In fact, many speak with a foreign accent (usually British or American, depending on whether they got most of their English practice in school or from television). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/38 "2003-10-23T12:44:31Z")
Let me get this straight-they somehow found a large group of women who had somehow avoided all news of the show(even though it was on satellite television), and during those weeks of filming the series _not a single one of them had a friend mention to them the similarity of their situation and that of the infamous American television series?!?_ Also, is it my imagination, or are the heavy accents of some of these “European” women slipping as the show goes on? Something(besides the incredibly bad taste, of course) doesn’t smell right. ---
**Author:** ![Tremmie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Tremmie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tremmie)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/39 "2003-10-23T14:21:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Czarcasm \* > \*\*Let me get this straight-they somehow found a large group of women who had somehow avoided all news of the show(even though it was on satellite television), and during those weeks of filming the series _not a single one of them had a friend mention to them the similarity of their situation and that of the infamous American television series?!?_ Also, is it my imagination, or are the heavy accents of some of these “European” women slipping as the show goes on? > Something(besides the incredibly bad taste, of course) doesn’t smell right. \*\* While the show is being taped all the women stay in the mansion and have no contact with their friends or family. I didn’t pay much attention during the premier but i believe they mentioned that they only picked women from countries where the first show was not broadcast at all. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810/40 "2003-10-23T17:34:09Z")
I was prepared to write the guy off as just as big a tool as Evan, but the horse-choosing thing stopped me. At least the guy knows about something, and CARES about something. Evan was a human tabula rasa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-2/200810.md?page=3)