# Joe Millionaire play-by-play (it's on right now!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 7, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070 "2003-01-07T02:22:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/21 "2003-01-07T07:14:30Z")
anyone else not paying attention at the begining when the guy said he was Paul Hogan and immediatly look up expecting Crocodile Dundee? ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/22 "2003-01-07T07:33:06Z")
I’m with ya **Tars** i’ve been putting off getting glasses for months and I was leaning forward, squinting, asking myself “my eyes can’t be _that_ bad can they?” And what was up with the chick wearing the sunglasses to meet him the first time? I made a resolution right then and there to never watch the show again if she made it. Good thing she didn’t. 😉 And the _doctor_ proclaiming that she didn’t want to be the breadwinner in the family? Setting a pretty high bar there, she is. And I also want the Heidi bitch to win, just so I can see her face when she finds out he’s broke as a joke. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/23 "2003-01-07T07:37:01Z")
oh, and word about the lying of ages. I never thought about it, I just kept saying to myself “I can’t _possibly_ be older than some of these women, I could pass as their little sister!” Crimeny, I’ve got friends in their mid thirties and early forties that look younger than some of the ones claiming to be in their early 20’s… - **lezlers** , who just turned 25 and looks a good 10 years younger than some of those 23 and 24 year olds… ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/24 "2003-01-07T07:40:29Z")
I was wondering about the wrinkles on some of these women. A lot of them looked in their 30s. I’d hate to think that 20-somethings already have that much sun damage. I think I have less wrinkles (or at least no more) than some of them (especially around the eyes) and I am _coughcough_ years old. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/25 "2003-01-07T08:18:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Menocchio \* > Not only is she really poor, she was also born a man. Wouldn’t that make a lovely twist at the end of this show? “And, now that you’ve made your choice and we’ve told her you’re not really rich, we’ve got _one last surprise_!” ---
**Author:** ![High\_Priestess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ee7513/32.png) [@High\_Priestess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/High_Priestess)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/26 "2003-01-07T09:15:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KneadToKnow \* > \*\*Wouldn’t that make a lovely twist at the end of this show? “And, now that you’ve made your choice and we’ve told her you’re not really rich, we’ve got _one last surprise_!” \*\* I would find that terribly interesting… I’ve had a couple of friends who were kind of on the end of something like that (an MtF transexual and a straight male). They’re now engaged, by the way. ^^ ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/27 "2003-01-07T12:37:34Z")
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought several of those women looked “past their prime”. Living in Arizona for 25 years\*, though, I’ve seen first hand that it’s quite possible to look that bad before you hit 30. …which isn’t to say they aren’t lying, of course 😉 \*and I hid from the sun every single day ---
**Author:** ![Jimson\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@Jimson\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimson_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/28 "2003-01-07T12:54:58Z")
I hate to say it, but I’m hooked. This show is going to be a blast. Paul is the best part. As usual the “help” knows all the secrets. I think half this show is going to be “Joe” sorting through the lies these ladies are telling him. I think the factitious ages are just the start. I’m willing to bet many of their listed occupations are false and I’m sure they all have plenty of skeletons in their closets. ---
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/29 "2003-01-07T15:45:53Z")
I too thought I look damn good at 27 next to the supposely 23 years old woman who looks like my mom. But why would they lie? It is a pretty obvious, easy lie to break… I find it weird. Oh well, the show is on my Monday night program nowon… can’t help it. Like somebody said earlier, I bet too that at the end they will announce he really do have some money somehow… ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/30 "2003-01-07T16:48:06Z")
The Smoking Gun comes through yet again: > **[Exposing "Joe Millionaire": The Modeling Shots](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/exposing-joe-millionaire-modeling-shots)** > >   > EXPOSED: "Joe Millionaire" finalist starred in bondage, fetish films. > JANUARY 6--Before Fox Television turned him into "Joe Millionaire," the eligible bachelor supposedly worth $50 million, Eva ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/31 "2003-01-07T19:09:29Z")
I must have grown up in a completely different universe from “the girls” because I never once dreamed of a fairy tale wedding with a prince and a giant castle. I do, however, want a butler just like that one. A few random thoughts (I had to switch back and forth between JM and the RW/RR Battle of the Sexes, so said thoughts are a little disjointed): I forsee feeling really bad for Evan, unless FOX pulls some nasty plot twist out of its ass, which is entirely within the realm of possibility. There was something about his sad sack bit at the beginning that felt a little too contrived, but we’ll see. These women are reprehensible. As other posters postulated, I believe the great majority of them are lying about their ages and are exactly the sort of female Evan decried in his opening bit. This, therefore, can only end in disaster. The chateau is gorgeous. It’s the breakout star of the series. Along with that greener-than-green shrubbery maze at the base of the hill. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/32 "2003-01-07T19:49:11Z")
OK, I’ll bite. What’s so awful about Heidi? It is, after all, a competition. ---
**Author:** ![Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/33 "2003-01-07T20:24:12Z")
Maybe he’ll fall in love with the girl he picks and she’ll love him back, even though he’s not really a millionaire. True love will conquer all! And then they’ll win a million dollars just for participating. Oh, and that Heidi is just a scheming, evil, soap opera type. Can’t stand her! I hope she wins. (And they DON’T get awarded a prize!) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/34 "2003-01-07T20:43:14Z")
When I first heard of this, I got all giddy. It’s a great idea and a wonderful twist to all those other “real world relationship” shows. I can’t wait till the final episode. A few things though. I agree with what someone said earlier about how they could have picked a better guy, or at least prepped him a little better. He said in one of his little personal moments that “[He’s} not a good liar.” Ummmm…piss poor quality for a show built around a LIE!!! And his voice annoys me. What really bugs me though, is the fact that apparently, he’s lying to them about more than simply the money. The fact the girls don’t even know his real name just rubs me the wrong way. IF the series is supposed to be “Would the women love him even if he weren’t rich,” he should at least be honest about who he is. I predict that whoever does win will ditch him because she’ll not only be asked to marry a poor guy, but a poor guy she knows nothing about (not like she’d get to know him that well in the course of two weeks, but you know what I mean). ---
**Author:** ![peepthis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9d8465/32.png) [@peepthis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peepthis)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/35 "2003-01-07T20:54:28Z")
I’m surprised at how unprepared Evan was to foist this charade on the women. Seriously, he couldn’t make up a middle name in less than a few seconds? I’d be surprised if some of the women didn’t get more suspicious by the end of the series. And the “Heidi as Uber-Bitch” theme was pretty predictable, to get the audience to hate someone right away. This was skillful editing by the directors, broadcasting scenes (from hours of footage) to cast her in the worst possible light & thus manipulate the viewing audience’s sympathies – and it appears from what people have written here so far that it worked. I think Heidi and whoever asked him his middle name had the right idea for the first episode: they were only going to get a quick shot to talk to him, and it would be easy for them all to blend together. The checking-his-palm routine and asking his middle name were strategically wise, since they made a lasting impression on Evan. And Evan is doing his best to put on this act about how he doesn’t like what he’s doing, and lying to women to get them into bed; but let’s just wait and see where his conscience is when some of these tarts throw themselves at him. It’s only his job to deceive the women, any hanky-panky will be his doing and hell if I’m going to feel sorry for him. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/36 "2003-01-07T21:00:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Slacker \* > \*\*Speaking of quiet, did Alex McCloud have a volume-ectomy? She was never that subdued on Trading Spaces. She looked and acted like a Reality Show Hosting Robot (no emotion whatsoever). \*\* Maybe that is why they fired her butt. “left to pursue other projects” indeed. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tclouie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@tclouie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tclouie)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/37 "2003-01-07T21:01:38Z")
Over on the [Television Without Pity](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/ijsbb/forum.cgi?cn=103) discussion boards, the consensus is: Heidi Ho bad, MoJoHo bad, Zora good as well as curve-a-licious, should have just gone to the ball in that sweatsuit, and Curly Melissa SmileaLottaBoobs, good, but HeidiHo must win because we’ve gotta see the look on her face when she finds out. Yes, they are lying about their ages, and yes Jeeves is more adorable than the Mawster, maybe it’s really his castle after all and wouldn’t it’ve been more interesting to have _him_ play Joe than Neanderthal Evan, about whose masculine beauty there is far from a consensus. Yes, Alex looks drugged and her lines sound dubbed, and instead of firing her or snipping her onto the cutting room floor they probably just gave the butler a promotion. And yes, we’re all going to hell and boy will it be crowded. And no, nobody on _that_ board has yet come up with a classic to equal **Menocchio** ’s “Joe HIV Negative.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Harli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c0e974/32.png) [@Harli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harli)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/38 "2003-01-07T21:05:30Z")
I fought myself, but ended up watching it anyway. I hate reality shows like this, but just _had_ to see if the ones that didn’t get chosen were going to be told at the end of the episode. As they weren’t, I will not be watching again until the end. I want to see their reactions _evil laugh_ One reaction though, when Evan was dancing with each girl individually, they did this whole musical segment. You could see that they were talking to each other, but you just heard music. I was more interested in hearing what they had to say to each other rather than watching them dance. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/39 "2003-01-07T23:55:39Z")
I’m rooting for Melissa M., because she has the best ta-tas. (ducking and running) ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070/40 "2003-01-08T01:18:52Z")
THey sure accellerate it, like next week they cut 8 more isn’t it? Probably turns on the woman he chooses has $100M [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-play-by-play-its-on-right-now/147070.md?page=3)