# Joe Millionaire Twist Speculation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 11, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339 "2003-02-11T13:47:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/101 "2003-02-17T21:06:41Z")

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I’m hoping for the twin thing. It’d be…cool.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/102 "2003-02-17T21:38:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*Keep in mind an important thing: The women were not told about Evan inheriting $50 million until _after_ they auditioned for the show and were selected. Evan’s money could not have been why they were interested in being on the show. Perhaps this was done to prevent the contestant pool from being overwhelmed by golddiggers. \*\*

That is exactly correct. I have posted before that one of the contestants is an acquaintence of my wife and a good friend of a good friend. Before the show aired but after all of the promos started airing she sent a brief email to her entire address book.

She said the following:

They were all totally fooled. They were told that they were auditioning for a “Sex in the City type reality show to see if 20 successful, educated women could find love in Europe.” She claimed that they didn’t even know it was a competion for just one man.

This particular lady is a wannabe actress who did the show on a lark and as an attempt to start an acting career. That is probably the case for most of the people on the show.

Oddly enough, this same friend knows one of the people who was on Survivor. She doesn’t know her very well, they share an ex-boy friend. She is also a wannabe actress.

I hate reality tv (Mrs. H likes some of the more popular shows) and this is the only one I have ever watched for more than a few minutes only because my friend’s good friend is on it. My guess on the twist is the obvious one, Fox is going to gift Evan with a million bucks after the scam is revealed and the winner (I’m guessing Zora) gives her response.

Haj

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/103 "2003-02-17T21:57:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*Keep in mind an important thing: The women were not told about Evan inheriting $50 million until _after_ they auditioned for the show and were selected. Evan’s money could not have been why they were interested in being on the show. Perhaps this was done to prevent the contestant pool from being overwhelmed by golddiggers. \*\*

On the first episode, when thay are all about to meet, did the host not say something to the effect of-

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> You all may know that he [Evan] is very wealthy. But you may not know how wealthy…He inherated 50 million dollars 2 years ago.

I thought they had an idea of his supposed wealth. 😕

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/104 "2003-02-17T23:15:45Z")

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Yep, I remember hearing the hardly-ever-there Hostess (Alex what’s-her-face) saying that to the 20 women after they’d gathered together at the castle.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/105 "2003-02-18T02:53:47Z")

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HAH!

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/106 "2003-02-18T02:54:11Z")

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Ho-hum.

What a twist :smack:

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**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/107 "2003-02-18T02:55:41Z")

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My, how “shocking”. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/108 "2003-02-18T02:57:19Z")

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Our twists were better!

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/109 "2003-02-18T02:57:22Z")

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I saw it a mile away, but had the amount wrong.

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**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/110 "2003-02-18T02:57:41Z")

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Those lying **BASTARDS!** They said it was something we would NOT expect! Here is a whole freaking discussion of people saying exactly what happened!  
Ooo. Even screwed UP. He told her that she was $500,000 richer. If he meant to be with her through the end he would have said a million.

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**Author:** ![Horrifying\_Howler\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Horrifying\_Howler\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horrifying_Howler_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/111 "2003-02-18T02:58:14Z")

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I missed it. What was the twist?

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/112 "2003-02-18T02:59:18Z")

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I called it perfectly! I even guessed he’d pick Zora.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/113 "2003-02-18T03:00:14Z")

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So, if she had said no, then he would’ve gotten the entire million, or only $500,000?

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9dc877/32.png) [@Mr\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/114 "2003-02-18T03:00:20Z")

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Wonder if that money is taxed? Either way neither of them are millionaires.

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**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/115 "2003-02-18T03:01:24Z")

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Evan is either a better actor than he’d been letting on through the whole show (no, I didn’t watch all of the episodes, or even parts of each, I just caught glimpses here and there and was totally mindblown at how dumb he looked/sounded when I did) or that lame-o twist completely surprised him.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/116 "2003-02-18T03:02:47Z")

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I called the ‘twist’ I think 2 weeks into the show, before they even hinted that there was a twist ending. Pretty obvious.

I didn’t call zora until 3 weeks ago though.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/117 "2003-02-18T03:14:48Z")

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I just missed it. What happened?

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**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/118 "2003-02-18T03:16:03Z")

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> _Originally posted by Magayuk_  
> I missed it. What was the twist?

Read the thread. That’s what happened.

They gave the couple $1,000,000.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/119 "2003-02-18T03:24:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LolaCocaCola \*  
> \*\*So, if she had said no, then he would’ve gotten the entire million, or only $500,000? \*\*

I kept waiting for Mr. “I’m-not-a-butler-but-I-play-one-on-TV” to really twist things up after he gave the couple the check, by telling Evan that had Zora not shown up in the ballroom, Fox was going to give him $50 million.

“You stupid b\*itch! I could’ve had 50 mil!”

“But I loooove you!”

“F\*ck love.”

Happy

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**Author:** ![nineiron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e56c9b/32.png) [@nineiron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nineiron)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/120 "2003-02-18T03:24:44Z")

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In case there’s still someone who hasn’t heard, SPOILER ALERT:  
OK, if I’m Zora, I am thinking to myself (given the time to ponder that she was given): “OK, I’m on a TV show and we’ve all been strung out for weeks, then told there’s no money. There’s a good chance that I, the winner, am being tested to see if I’ll be true, for richer or poorer. So, if I say yes, there’s a good chance at a huge payoff for being so loyal and un-shallow. If I say yes, and there’s no payoff, I can always break the thing off tomorrow, no harm done. Saying no and walking away would therefore be stupid.”

Plus, she said she was “turned off” by his supposed $50 million inheritance. Wouldn’t she then be turned off by the fact that he and she were just given $1 million? If money is such a turn-off, she would have just broken it off right then and there, no?

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