# Joe Millionaire Twist Speculation **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 11, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339 "2003-02-11T13:47:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/141 "2003-02-18T05:57:13Z")
Sara was f\*\*king hot. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/142 "2003-02-18T06:33:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nineiron \* > \*\*It reminded me very much of the Cheers episode where Rebecca acted quite the same way toward Evan Drake when he was suddenly poor. She felt that acting like she didn’t care about money would be her best route to getting the money she thought he had. \*\* It wasn’t Evan Drake, it was Robin Colcord. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/143 "2003-02-18T06:39:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stinkpalm \* > **Sara was f** king hot. \*\* So, a stupid, shallow woman is hot? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Lehcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5a626/32.png) [@Lehcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lehcar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/144 "2003-02-18T06:51:02Z")
Wow, I am now a dumber person for having watched this show. ---
**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/145 "2003-02-18T07:29:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TJ555 The Golfer \* > \*\*I saw this and wasn’t really paying attention. Did the woman who lost say she gave Evan oral sex when she was talking to the other woman? Or just kissed him? \*\* As I recall she said she kissed him. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/146 "2003-02-18T07:33:15Z")
Okay, now I want to see Heidi’s reaction to having lost the $500K. And Sara and Melissa, too. Oh, and miss $1million check Mojo. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/147 "2003-02-18T07:58:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \* > \*\*So, a stupid, shallow woman is hot? > > Wow. \*\* Yes. Hot is a purely physical thing. To say she was attractive is something different, though. To me, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/148 "2003-02-18T08:12:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 23skidoo \* > \*\*Except for the part where the sock or handkerchief was by her mouth. Could anyone REALLY make out what she said? Was the lack of subtitles because FOX couldn’t figure out what she had said, or because what she said was “too racy”? \*\* I just got finished watching the tape (I was at work when it aired). It looked to me like she was pretending to kiss the sock, miming her kissing Evan. That’s why there weren’t any subtitles - she was just making smooching sounds. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: the editors for this show are geniuses. They did a brilliant job of mocking all the girls. Those bios were hysterical - all the rejected girls driving around California in their expensive cars and whatnot. Except Zora, of course. That gave it all away really early. I mean, come on. Even if only half of her little biography was even remotely true, she _had_ to win! She’s a substitute teacher that works with the ELDERLY, for crying out loud! She wanted to sell her necklaces to help her aunt in Yugoslavia or wherever that was dying of CANCER!! **She had no damn heat in her apartment!!!** There was no way they were setting her up to lose. On top of all that, say what you want about the show, or Evan, or Zora, or whoever, but I’d still trade places with Evan in a heartbeat. Lucky bastard. ---
**Author:** ![hyperjes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@hyperjes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hyperjes)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/149 "2003-02-18T08:26:55Z")
What I meant about the sock- It appeared to me that she wiped the corner of her mouth with it. Now, either Evan slobbers (not entirely out of the question…) or…ahem…you know. She followed this action with some kind of question as to whether or not that made her look dumb and was that maybe why he didn’t choose her. We all know how guys hate to be “rejected” so… Just wondering. I guess I have a dirty little mind.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/150 "2003-02-18T08:29:19Z")
They really seemed to potray Melissa and Sara as the evil stepsisters to Zora’s Cinderella. Zora didn’t even have a frickin’ gown for the ball in the beginning. Zora almost seemed too nice to be real. Sara and Melissa were nasty witches scheming to get their hands on Evan’s nonexistant millions. When the twist came I thought to myself “Is that it? I mean seriously, where’s the twist?’” Anybody with a brain could see that one coming. ---
**Author:** ![nineiron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e56c9b/32.png) [@nineiron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nineiron)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/151 "2003-02-18T11:41:03Z")
Whoops. Yeah, that was Robin, not Evan, in Cheers. Maybe Evan from Joe Millionaire was on my mind. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/152 "2003-02-18T15:19:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nineiron \* > **OK, if I’m Zora, I am thinking to myself (given the time to ponder that she was given): "OK, I’m on a TV show and we’ve all been strung out for weeks, then told there’s no money. There’s a good chance that I, the winner, am being tested to see if I’ll be true, for richer or poorer. So, if I say yes, there’s a good chance at a huge payoff for being so loyal and un-shallow. If I say yes, and there’s no payoff, I can always break the thing off tomorrow, no harm done. Saying no and walking away would therefore be stupid."** Even if Zora **didn’t** figure this out, she already knew that Evan was going to give her some kind of a “ring” if she said yes. She could’ve been thinking, “I could say yes, take the ring, dump loser-boy tomorrow, and then sell the ring at a pawn shop. Er … to pay for my poor aunt’s cancer surgery, of course.” I wonder if Zora has ever visited any 3rd world countries and bathed their children. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339/153 "2003-02-18T19:37:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\*I wonder if Zora has ever visited any 3rd world countries and bathed their children. 😉 \*\* Of course not! She’s no mercenary! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-millionaire-twist-speculation/154339.md?page=7)