# Joe Morgan fired from ESPN Sunday games. (Miller too). **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 9, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026 "2010-11-09T13:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/1 "2010-11-09T13:14:01Z")
Finally! This day has been long in coming and we don’t even know the reason why. ESPN did not give a reason. Did they finally listen to their fans or did Morgan do something stupid behind the scenes instead of just on the air? > [@](#): > > [Morgan’s contract is expiring](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5782045) and he will not be renewed. Miller’s contract is also expiring though he may remain at ESPN working the “Sunday Night Baseball” series and postseason baseball for ESPN Radio. Let’s hope they hire someone like Jim Kaat to take over. ---
**Author:** ![jonesj2205](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jonesj2205](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonesj2205)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/2 "2010-11-09T13:43:11Z")
Let’s hope Tim McCarver’s contract isn’t up. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/3 "2010-11-09T14:01:37Z")
I love Miller, but always turn down the sound because I can’t stand Morgan. I hope they find a prominent place for Miller somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/4 "2010-11-09T14:06:51Z")
I’m sorry to see Miller go. I have fond memories of listening to him do Orioles games, but if he goes back to radio I probably won’t hear him. The reports are that ESPN’s new TV team could be Dan Shulman and Orel Hershiser. So help me, I just can’t help being annoyed by the way Shulman pronounces words like second base as “secondabase.” On the other hand I guess he won’t be doing baskettaball anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/5 "2010-11-09T14:16:27Z")
Halelujah! Miller sounds like he’s surprised at everything. He’s got that weird inflection where even, “There’s ball four, he takes first base” sounds like it’s never happened in any game before, ever. And Joe sounds like he’s off the reservation half the time, and that there’s nothing that could stir excitement in him. Down three in the bottom of the ninth, bases loaded, two out, full count … Grand Slam! – Joe’s take, “Well, he was bound to get a strike so I’m not surprised he got good contact. Back when I was playing … yada yada yada …” Personally, I think Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy should be contracted to call every baseball game ever played from here on out. Now there’s a broadcast team. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/6 "2010-11-09T14:57:42Z")
Thank God! Now Morgan can gush about Barry Bonds in the privacy of his own home. > [@jonesj2205](#): > > Let’s hope Tim McCarver’s contract isn’t up. And Joe Buck along with him. They can spend their free time hating everything with Billy Packer. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/7 "2010-11-09T15:00:48Z")
Good riddance to Joe Morgan, but I love Jon Miller, dammit! Free Jon Miller! ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/8 "2010-11-09T15:55:07Z")
I have never loved anybody with the passion I hate Joe Morgan with. I believe his contract dictated that he “annoy everyone with the stupid until they can’t take it anymore, and then be smug about your stupid observations for a while.” Smug and stupid and short is no way to go through life, son. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/9 "2010-11-09T15:56:43Z")
“Young kids can learn a lot from watching Albert Pujols hit.” :rolleyes: _mutes television_ ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/10 "2010-11-09T16:05:25Z")
My vote is for Don Sutton. I’ve had the great pleasure of listening him for years as a Braves announcer. Smoltz has had a great transition to the booth and I think his future is bright as a color commentator. ---
**Author:** ![Intelligently\_Designed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intelligently_designed/32/20957_2.png) [@Intelligently\_Designed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intelligently_Designed)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/11 "2010-11-10T00:33:58Z")
I sure will miss Morgan’s enlightening pieces of analysis like [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhJ1d6Qx6AE). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/12 "2010-11-10T01:50:00Z")
> [@Intelligently\_Designed](#): > > I sure will miss Morgan’s enlightening pieces of analysis like [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhJ1d6Qx6AE). That’s not even bad by Joe’s standards. A few years back he explained tha the reason the Braves had beaten the Astros in the preceding playoff game (or it might have been the other way around) was that the Braves (or Astros) had scored more runs. Wow! ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/13 "2010-11-10T05:57:43Z")
That’s a prayer that’s finally been answered! It’s a Festivus miracle! However, I like Jon Miller. I also loved him from his days in Baltimore with Joe Angel, one of the best tandems I can honestly remember. So long, Joe! If the Shulman - Hershiser rumor is true, I won’t watch baseball on ESPN. Shulman is awful, and Hershiser is just so-so. Please let them bring back Miller. I’d be happy if Miller was in the booth alone. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/14 "2010-11-10T06:35:36Z")
Semantics, but “not renewing a contract” isn’t really the same as firing. It takes two to tango, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/15 "2010-11-10T07:43:24Z")
Well either way, Morgan is finally gone. Unfortunately, that also means the chances of the truly excellent [www.FireJoeMorgan.com](http://www.FireJoeMorgan.com) coming back have probably reached zero. Zero from nearly zero, but still. Jon Miller is the voice of baseball for me for his work from ESPN. Then again, I grew up in Arizona without a baseball team, so ESPN was pretty much the only way to watch games. I’ve always loved his work. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/16 "2010-11-10T16:01:35Z")
I don’t know who I’d like to fill the pbp position, but I always liked Dave Campbell as an analyst. He used to do ESPN tv, and now does ESPN radio, so I’d love it if they brought him back. I doubt they will, though. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/17 "2010-11-12T02:10:30Z")
For your viewing pleasure: [http://twitter.com/hofjoemorgan](http://twitter.com/hofjoemorgan) Some Examples: > [@](#): > > Critical series for my Reds starts tonight, if they lose they will be further back ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/18 "2010-11-12T04:08:11Z")
Hasta la vista, Joe. Please take Joe Buck and Tim McCarver with you on the way out. I’d love to see Orsillo and Remy get a shot (although Remy’s appeal would probably be severely limited outside of New England). Kruk and Kuip would be fantastic too. Sadly, neither is likely to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/19 "2010-11-12T04:14:51Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > For your viewing pleasure: [http://twitter.com/hofjoemorgan](http://twitter.com/hofjoemorgan) Excellent. Too bad it’s (a) not updated regularly at all and (b) not Joe. It’d be so much sweeter if it were Joe. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026/20 "2010-11-12T14:35:11Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Well either way, Morgan is finally gone. Unfortunately, that also means the chances of the truly excellent [www.FireJoeMorgan.com](http://www.FireJoeMorgan.com) coming back have probably reached zero. Zero from nearly zero, but still. I’m hoping those guys come back for one last “we did it!” type of thing. Truly hilarious blog. The entry on superbike racing is pure gold. That said, I’m sad about Jon Miller. I really like him. I know a lot of people don’t, but you gotta consider he was stuck with Joe Morgan. I liked Miller because he was not really afraid to call Morgan out from time to time. They didn’t have a great chemistry, I admit, but the point is…who \*could \*have a great chemistry with Joe Morgan? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-morgan-fired-from-espn-sunday-games-miller-too/560026.md?page=2)