# Joe Rogan and his massive audience **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296 "2022-01-06T03:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/121 "2022-01-27T21:56:01Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Young didn’t back down. Neil Young pulled a Tom Petty? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/122 "2022-01-27T22:05:52Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Maybe even a Crazy Horse? I’m not making headway either. I feel… [helpless](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8LYOyqJE7k&ab_channel=Crosby%2CStills%2CNash%26Young-Topic)… ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/123 "2022-01-28T01:11:29Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You can’t possibly be this stupid, Sam. You’re not new here. Of course he is. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/124 "2022-01-28T02:43:35Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Neil Young very quickly pulled his demand, as I understand it, He probably realized that if he demanded a ‘him or me’ decision, he wasn’t going to be the winner. 🤣 does it hurt to be this wrong, or are you too stupid to realize it? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/125 "2022-01-28T02:55:34Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > does it hurt to be this wrong, If there’s any justice in this world, this level of stupidity should _hurt_. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/126 "2022-01-28T14:30:19Z")
I just find it bizarre that anyone would think A) that Young didn’t know perfectly well that Spotify wouldn’t bend to his demand, and that he was from the start making a statement of principle and was prepared to follow through. I mean, this is Neil Young we’re talking about, right? He’s been writing protest songs and taking heat for it since before Joe Rogan was born. [Edit: Ohio was actually released when Rogan was 3, sorry.] And B) that Young would be concerned or alarmed about not being on Spotify or losing the revenue from it. I’m pretty sure he can make do without a bit of streaming revenue. Dude is worth several tens of millions at least (googling his net worth gets results ranging from $70m-$200M). Not to mention married to a movie star with significant wealth of her own. Speaking of which, wtf when did Neil Young and Daryl Hannah become a thing? I would have thought I would have heard about something like that. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/127 "2022-01-28T14:42:45Z")
I always thought Spotify was about music, not bloviating, but Barry Manilow has now joined Young and apparently Spotify won’t let people cancel anymore because they are being overwhelmed. I also saw a claim on twitter that Spotify has removed 42 of Joe Rogan’s podcasts so far. I can’t vouch for that as fact though. Anyway, I don’t think we’re heard the end yet. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/128 "2022-01-28T14:57:52Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Anyway, I don’t think we’re heard the end yet. I don’t know how much it matters, but Spotify stock is down about 5% today, 10% over the last 5, over 25% since the start of the year. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/129 "2022-01-28T15:33:01Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Dude is worth several tens of millions at least (googling his net worth gets results ranging from $70m-$200M). Seeing what Springsteen and Dylan sold their music rights for, I would guess Young is definitely at the high end of that estimate. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/130 "2022-01-28T17:24:38Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > apparently Spotify won’t let people cancel anymore because they are being overwhelmed. Indeed. > (Via this article) > **[Spotify Users Are Standing With Neil Young and Cancelling Their Subscriptions](https://popculture.com/streaming/news/spotify-users-are-standing-with-neil-young-and-cancelling-their-subscriptions/)** > > Neil Young fans are canceling their Spotify subscriptions in light of the company removing Young's \[...\] ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/131 "2022-01-28T17:32:11Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Barry Manilow has now joined Young Well, that would be the deathblow for sure 🤔, but apparently, that’s an unsubstantiated rumor, and likely impossible. > **[Morning Report: Spotify Stock Actually Recovers After Neil Young's Exit,...](https://www.showbiz411.com/2022/01/28/morning-report-spotify-stock-actually-recovers-after-neil-youngs-exit-barry-manilow-has-not-pulled-out)** > > Here's the latest on the Neil Young-Spotify feud: > > This morning the Spotify stock sagged a bit but now it's recovered and going up actually. Spotify stock is down $20 or so since Tuesday when Young first demanded that Spotify remove his music over... > [@](#): > > Plus, Manilow sold his catalog in 2020 to Hipgnosis Music. He probably doesn’t have the right to yank it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/132 "2022-01-28T17:56:43Z")
Damn it, I’m sorry for spreading a false rumor. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/133 "2022-01-28T18:14:42Z")
Neil and Pegi divorced, then Neil got with Daryl (sp?) like right away. Then Pegi died. I was saddened by the way that went down, but then again what business is it of mine? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/134 "2022-01-28T19:15:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The deletion doesn’t appear to have done much good, though. Is this the part where you call me a liar because ttaking down the demand letter isn’t the same as ‘pulling his demand’? Your whole assertion is based on a false premise. > He probably realized that if he demanded a ‘him or me’ decision, he wasn’t going to be the winner. No way Spotify is dropping a $100 million investment because an old rocker doesn’t like it. You said Young threatened Spotify to choose between himself and Rogan. He did not. He stated a fact. He was demanding that his content be pulled because of Rogan. And that is exactly what he did. Full stop. No _negotiation_. Ans Spotify is complying. [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/arts/music/spotify-neil-young-joe-rogan.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/arts/music/spotify-neil-young-joe-rogan.html) > Joe Rogan is plenty smart. Smart enough to be able to ask decent questions of physicists, biologists, or whoever he gets on his show. It is possible that someone crafted the questions for Joe. Which would still be pretty smart. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/135 "2022-01-28T19:25:54Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > It is possible that someone crafted the questions for Joe. Which would still be pretty smart. And it’s not all that hard to come up with questions like, “And how does that work?” or “Could you explain that to me”, or “What does that mean?” They are good questions for someone to ask, in order to get a guest to talk about them, but it doesn’t really take that much intelligence to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/136 "2022-01-29T01:34:31Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Seeing what Springsteen and Dylan sold their music rights for, I would guess Young is definitely at the high end of that estimate. He’s sold a piece of those rights, so he doesn’t own 100%. Still controls them, so probably greater that 50%? ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/137 "2022-01-29T06:43:54Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I always thought Spotify was about music, not bloviating, but Barry Manilow has now joined Young and apparently Spotify won’t let people cancel anymore because they are being overwhelmed. I’ve been a Premium subscriber since their very early days and I had no problems cancelling today. I can’t delete my account yet, as I apparently have to wait a month for my subscription to switch to free before that becomes possible, but at least I stopped sending them money. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/138 "2022-01-29T10:17:00Z")
Joni Mitchell stands by Neil Young: [https://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=1592](https://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=1592) From Joni Mitchell’s page:\> > I’ve decided to remove all my music from Spotify. Irresponsible people are spreading lies that are costing people their lives. I stand in solidarity with Neil Young and the global scientific and medical communities on this issue. —Joni Mitchell > > Read An [Open Letter to Spotify](https://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=5101): A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy. I approve of that stance. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/139 "2022-01-29T12:02:57Z")
Someone leaked Spotify’s incredibly lenient medical misinformation rules: > **[Someone leaked Spotify's incredibly lenient "medical misinformation" rules](https://www.avclub.com/joe-rogan-spotify-covid-misinformation-guidelines-1848444793)** > > A bar so low, even The Joe Rogan Experience has managed to clear it I think this might be going somewhere. If so, good on you, Neil Young, for starting something. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296/140 "2022-01-29T17:02:44Z")
At first I thought this was a headline from The Onion: > **[James Blunt threatens to release new music on Spotify in protest against Joe...](https://www.nme.com/news/music/james-blunt-threatens-to-release-new-music-on-spotify-in-protest-against-joe-rogan-3149555)** > > James Blunt has threatened to release new music on Spotify in protest against Joe Rogan’s podcast which is said to contain "misinformation" [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-rogan-and-his-massive-audience/957296.md?page=8)