# Joe Scarborough drops F-bomb on live air **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030 "2008-11-10T13:59:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/101 "2008-11-10T21:50:32Z")
Can I just pop in here and thank you all for making me laugh hysterically? I have never once considered applying Sun Tzu’s advice to my TV viewing habits. Of course, that’s probably because I’m not so utterly insane that I consider talk show hosts to be my enemies, but leave that go. This opens up whole new worlds for me. I’m gonna start watching TV preachers to keep myself appraised of their wily schemes. I’m gonna watch aggressive infomercials for crappy products I don’t need, so as to be fully ware of their deceptive schemes. And I will watch MTV, so I can know all the latest hiphop bands and why I do not like them. Sure it’s a lot of time and effort, but it will endow my drab, meaningless life with the fantasy that I am an important part of a great manichean struggle … ---
**Author:** ![dehacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@dehacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dehacker)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/102 "2008-11-10T22:18:02Z")
> [@furt](#): > > I have never once considered applying Sun Tzu’s advice to my TV viewing habits. Of course, that’s probably because I’m not so utterly insane that I consider talk show hosts to be my enemies, but leave that go. Of course, if you actually thought about it, you might realize that people have often generalized war principles to use as competitive strategies in other situations, such as [business](http://www.amazon.com/Sun-Tzu-Art-Business-Principles/dp/0195137892/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226354466&sr=1-1), or [poker](http://www.suntzupoker.com/), or [golf](http://www.google.com/books?id=7kFA4O9xwYwC&dq=apply+sun+tzu+to+game+strategy&pg=PP1&ots=o220EX1vxe&source=in&sig=-xZBsSnhLE1www2ENC_FubEssYI#PPP1,M1). But they could just all be insane I guess. However, if you really mean that you don’t see the political arena as competitive, well then I’m afraid I haven’t got what it takes to respond intelligently to that. > [@furt](#): > > I’m gonna start watching TV preachers to keep myself appraised of their wily schemes. I’m gonna watch aggressive infomercials for crappy products I don’t need, so as to be fully ware of their deceptive schemes. And I will watch MTV, so I can know all the latest hiphop bands and why I do not like them. Unless you intend to compete against them for something (or just enjoy viewing it), I would recommend against it. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/103 "2008-11-10T23:21:38Z")
> [@dehacker](#): > > And it is obviously my sincere opinion that you should take Sun Tzu’s advice and know the other side, including those slightly more up to date and off center than the Speaker of the House from a decade ago. No “stress” is even necessary, since you seem to be the only one pitching that particular point. > > Sticking your head in the sand to avoid knowledge, or demonizing the other side by calling them “crazies” doesn’t appear to accomplish anything, in my opinion. Well, except keep \*you \*calm, so it can’t be all bad. I was sort of joking around earlier , based on the back and forth between you and **Cisco** , when I posted “The only think we have to fear is fear itself.” I was also making the roundabout point that unless we seek out knowledge about those who disagree with us and why, all we’ll be doing is railing against them from a position of ignorance and fear, instead of debating from a knowledgeable standpoint, thereby being better able to counterbalance and stand against them. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/104 "2008-11-10T23:57:03Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > So, as per **Steve MB** pointed out upthread, Joe Scarborough should go fuck himself? Sure, what the hell do I care? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/105 "2008-11-11T00:36:55Z")
> [@furt](#): > > \And I will watch MTV, so I can know all the latest hiphop bands and why I do not like them. \ Good luck with that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/106 "2008-11-11T01:00:13Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > I must be a bad Democrat, because I thought it was funnier than fuck. 😃 Can I join you at the Bad Democrats’ table, then? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/107 "2008-11-11T01:06:22Z")
> [@furt](#): > > And I will watch MTV, so I can know all the latest hiphop bands and why I do not like them. I listen to the radio to hear what’s out there. I’ve been happily surprised quite a bit. I’m simply not a person who only likes one thing or who will only listen to people who agree with me. I’m not set in stone. I want to hear lots of views and weed the nutty from the sane myself rather than depending on someone else to do it. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/108 "2008-11-12T23:37:34Z")
Update. It’s good to see that MSNBC cracked down hard on Scarborough for his obscenity. He has been subjected to the harsh discipline of a [seven second delay](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iGjB9fnGb80tLWIBzyV9a8LzkWegD94D37VO0). I don’t know how he’ll be able to go on. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/109 "2008-11-13T00:53:40Z")
Well supposedly his wife is going to kill him, so that should get him out of our hair. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/110 "2008-11-13T07:17:35Z")
Agreed, he did nothing wrong. If one finds that it is wrong, they are the ones who are wrong, and a bit uptight. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/111 "2008-11-13T07:48:14Z")
Joe’s face looked a little swollen in that shot. Cable or not - come on. Emphasis is one thing, but shock for ratings is something else. Got our attention though, right? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/112 "2008-11-13T14:07:23Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > Agreed, he did nothing wrong. If one finds that it is wrong, they are the ones who are wrong, and a bit uptight. Great username/post combo. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/113 "2008-11-13T15:28:08Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I have no idea who Joe Scarborough is, but based solely on that quote, I like him already. So do I. I don’t see anything wrong with that statement. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/114 "2008-11-13T16:06:24Z")
Nobody here sees anything wrong with what he said. Nobody has said that he’s going to hell for saying fuck. Maybe the fourth (or fifth, or whatever) time will be the charm in getting across this very simple point: it is Joe’s CONSTITUENCY that won’t like what he said. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/115 "2008-11-13T16:08:15Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Nobody here sees anything wrong with what he said. Nobody has said that he’s going to hell for saying fuck. Maybe the fourth (or fifth, or whatever) time will be the charm in getting across this very simple point: it is Joe’s CONSTITUENCY that won’t like what he said. Then they should probably being the ones pitting him. Why should I care if Joe Scarborough’s constiuency is upset with him? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/116 "2008-11-13T16:28:54Z")
The OP is AMUSED that Joe Scarborough’s constituency is upset. He thinks Joe Scarborough DESERVES to have his constituency upset because Joe Scarborough COURTS this type of outrage when it’s someone else. Geddit? ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/117 "2008-11-13T16:30:08Z")
If you don’t care, why are you posting? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/118 "2008-11-13T16:49:39Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > The OP is AMUSED that Joe Scarborough’s constituency is upset. He thinks Joe Scarborough DESERVES to have his constituency upset because Joe Scarborough COURTS this type of outrage when it’s someone else. > > Geddit? Thank you. > [@Carl\_Corey](#): > > If you don’t care, why are you posting? Try to think. Squint and grunt if necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/119 "2008-11-13T16:57:17Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Geddit? I get it. I find this sort of schadenfreude unseemly, but I get it. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030/120 "2008-11-13T17:10:33Z")
I can understand why it looks like schadenfreude, but it isn’t. I’m not glad Joe got hurt. (Admittedly, I’m not devastated either.) What I’m glad about is that there is one more small tool with which to fight the notion that the extreme right has a moral highground over everyone else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-scarborough-drops-f-bomb-on-live-air/472030.md?page=7)