# Joe the Plumber Becomes Joe the War Correspondent

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 7, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295 "2009-01-07T22:22:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/21 "2009-01-08T03:33:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Israel is a nation of _zombies_?
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> No wonder the Palestinians are always firing rockets at them…

Shotguns are much more effective against zombies – no wonder they’re losing!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/22 "2009-01-08T03:35:59Z")

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They’re just lucky that brains aren’t kosher.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/23 "2009-01-08T14:25:20Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> They’re just lucky that brains aren’t kosher.

Even when prepared by a zombie rabbi?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/24 "2009-01-08T14:30:37Z")

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Meh. He’s this decade’s Kato Kaelin. Let him have his 15 minutes of fame before he dies in some obscure trailer park.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/25 "2009-01-08T14:33:21Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> His first entry: They are fighting in an area known as Gaza.

Doesn’t he know that Gaza is where the pyramids are? Oh wait, that’s Ginza.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/26 "2009-01-08T14:41:52Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Doesn’t he know that Gaza is where the pyramids are? Oh wait, that’s Ginza.

The Jews are fighting over those Japanese knives?

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/27 "2009-01-08T14:43:27Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> His first entry:
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> > Israel is a country in the Middle East. It was founded in 1948 when a bunch of Jewish people moved there after they were killed in the Holocaust by Adolf Hitler. Right now they are fighting Hamas, which is named after a dish made of chick peas and and garlic, a delicacy in this exotic region of the world. They are fighting over the fact that they are different religons. The rockets and planes are very interesting and modern, but unfortunately many people are dying. They have been fighting for 60 years. They are fighting in an area known as Gaza. Hamas represents people known as Palestinians who have a flag that is black, green, red and white. They are Muslim and I am pretty sure they are terrorists.
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> > The weather is very nice

Ah, sheeet. This is obviously fake! It’s all speled correct and very grammatical done.  
Apparently Joke the Plumber wants to witness the death of Israel first hand.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/28 "2009-01-08T15:22:30Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Even when prepared by a zombie rabbi?

There are zombbis? I’d hate to see that bris.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/29 "2009-01-08T15:37:16Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Let him have his 15 minutes of fame before he dies in some obscure trailer park.

That’s a really good way of putting american “fame”.. Of the sort that is fleeting. I’m stealing that quote.

There’s lots of bands out there that made it “big” but not “big enough” to stay afloat past one big tour. From what I’ve heard over and over in stories like that they essentially have no income and “real work” is below them. I mean, _really_ that guy used to be in that big band! And he has no skills anyway, even if he _would_ work.

So they do just that, end up drunk and dead in some obscure trailer park.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/30 "2009-01-08T15:47:30Z")

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> [@clayton\_e](#):
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> There’s lots of bands out there that made it “big” but not “big enough” to stay afloat past one big tour. From what I’ve heard over and over in stories like that they essentially have no income and “real work” is below them. I mean, _really_ that guy used to be in that big band! And he has no skills anyway, even if he _would_ work.
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> So they do just that, end up drunk and dead in some obscure trailer park.

Actually, I think these days they end up on a VH-1 ‘reality’ show.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/31 "2009-01-08T15:52:30Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> Actually, I think these days they end up on a VH-1 ‘reality’ show.

Ah, we now have an intermediate stop between stage and park.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/32 "2009-01-08T16:07:09Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> There are zombbis? I’d hate to see that bris.

In this case, ignorance is _bris._

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/33 "2009-01-08T16:11:31Z")

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> [@Alienhand](#):
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> I don’t really have a problem with him outside of my normal annoyance with dumbassery. McCain made him famous and he’s making money while he can, and so would I.

The problem is not Joe himself. There is no shortage of greedy hucksters in the world; and in our market-oriented society, if there are people willing to buy a worthless thing, then attentive opportunists will come along and sell it to them.

No, the problem is that the number of stupid people who desire to consume Joe’s worthless commentary is sufficient to give him a marketable audience. In a good and just world, Joe’s readership would be limited to his immediate social circle, and maybe some guy in New Hampshire who has spent too many years watching for fish by sticking his head down the hole in the floor of the ice shack. But it is not a good and just world, and there are tens of thousands of slack-brained fools who are genuinely interested in what the thumb-headed jamoke has to say, cuz he famous an shit. Ergo, he has an audience that can be sold to advertisers; ergo, he has a job, and will for the foreseeable future.

Joe ain’t the problem. _We_, collectively, the simple-minded, under-educated American masses, are the problem.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/34 "2009-01-08T16:18:15Z")

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Well, we’re working on that. And actually, its taking _less_ time than I thought. Of course, I’m rather a pessimist, so I love being wrong.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/35 "2009-01-08T17:31:34Z")

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That post of his has to be fake. right? I mean, confusing Hamas with hummus? You have got to be kidding me…

The guy is a complete moron. My 6 year old could provide better commentary than that.

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**Author:** ![UncaStuart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncastuart/32/404_2.png) [@UncaStuart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncaStuart)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/36 "2009-01-08T17:41:48Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> That post of his has to be fake. right?

I agree that it can be hard to tell :), so I propose, in a blatant rip-off of Poe’s Law, that we have Joe’s Law:  
“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of ‘Joe the Plumber’ that SOMEONE won’t mistake for the real thing.”

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/37 "2009-01-08T17:46:22Z")

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Oh, sure, make fun of the girl who hasn’t had enough coffee yet…

😉

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/38 "2009-01-08T17:48:04Z")

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I never heard of this Pajama thing before. I see from their site they are a far right quasi-news organization. This will give them more media exposure than they ever could have gotten otherwise so it’s already a huge success for them. I’m sure Joe will be stationed far away from any actual danger and from any person who may express an opinion not entirely in line with the right wing version of the story. Therefore it seems the chances of his meeting his doom are disappointingly small.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/39 "2009-01-08T17:48:14Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> That post of his has to be fake. right? I mean, confusing Hamas with hummus? You have got to be kidding me…
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> The guy is a complete moron. My 6 year old could provide better commentary than that.

LOOKOUT! Up above! It’s a whoosh!

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-becomes-joe-the-war-correspondent/480295/40 "2009-01-08T18:17:13Z")

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See post #36 for a much gentler handling of my ignorance… 😃

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