# Joe the Plumber: McCain sucks, Obama honest

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 22, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970 "2010-02-22T15:40:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/1 "2010-02-22T15:40:41Z")

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Well, dress me up and call me Sally. Joe the Plumber says McCain screwed up his life, and gives Obama marks for honesty (not that he agrees with Obama, of course).

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> Joe, also known as Sam Wurzelbacher, told an audience in Pennsylvania this week that McCain “is no public servant.” . . . In fact, Wurzelbacher’s dislike for McCain is so strong that he no longer supports Sarah Palin simply because Palin will campaign for McCain’s re-election.
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> As for Obama: “I think his ideology is un-American, but he’s one of the more honest politicians. At least he told us what he wanted to do.”

[Link.](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/81035-joe-the-plumber-tears-into-john-mccain)

Phone call for Mr. Plumber: your 2 minutes of fame expired two years ago.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/2 "2010-02-23T08:06:52Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Phone call for Mr. Plumber: your 2 minutes of fame expired two years ago.

Irony ho!

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/3 "2010-02-23T08:10:51Z")

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Wait, what’s the irony?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/4 "2010-02-23T10:28:17Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> Wait, what’s the irony?

That Joe didn’t take our advice.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/5 "2010-02-23T13:10:50Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> Wait, what’s the irony?

It’s like Joe the Plumber is getting a free ride when he’s already paid.

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**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/6 "2010-02-23T13:18:03Z")

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Hey, people still listen to Joe (conservatives often live in the past), I’d rather have “one of their own” (ie someone they’ll listen to) tell them this, because they won’t listen to us when we say it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/7 "2010-02-23T13:58:16Z")

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This is a huge blow to the McCain campaign.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/8 "2010-02-23T15:43:19Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> Wait, what’s the irony?

Well, plumber is derived from plumbous which is another word for lead and lead is a metal like iron … irony … er, okay I got nothing.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/9 "2010-02-23T15:52:23Z")

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I didn’t trust Joe the unlicensed subcontractor when he was blasting Obama, and I don’t trust him (or listen to him) now that he’s blasting McCain.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/10 "2010-02-23T16:09:44Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Well, plumber is derived from plumbous which is another word for lead and lead is a metal like iron … irony … er, okay I got nothing.

A noble attempt, Sir. They don’t all work.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/11 "2010-02-23T16:12:30Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Well, plumber is derived from plumbous which is another word for lead and lead is a metal like iron … irony … er, okay I got nothing.

You bought an Acme Explanation Generator, didn’t you?

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**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/12 "2010-02-23T16:21:51Z")

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I like how it says “Joe, also known as Sam Wurzelbacher…”. That’s like saying “Han Solo, also known as Harrison Ford…”. Too bad he’s an unlicensed plumber as he’ll be needing a job soon since his gravy train is about to derail, if it hasn’t already.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/13 "2010-02-23T16:55:51Z")

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> [@jk1245](#):
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> I like how it says “Joe, also known as Sam Wurzelbacher…”. That’s like saying “Han Solo, also known as Harrison Ford…”. Too bad he’s an unlicensed plumber as he’ll be needing a job soon since his gravy train is about to derail, if it hasn’t already.

To me, it sounds like it has, and that has left him bitter about John McCain. The campaign plucked him from obscurity, made him feel like he had a voice, and then - he discovered he didn’t.

Something about “Joe” reminds me of Charles Guiteau [Charles J. Guiteau - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau)

“Joe” seems to wonder why he isn’t Ambassador to France - or at least sitting in a Republican think tank getting paid big bucks to tell people what guys like him think.

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joe-the-plumber-mccain-sucks-obama-honest/529970/14 "2010-02-23T17:26:11Z")

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Was “Joe” getting _paid_ by the McCain campaign? I thought maybe they paid his travel expenses during the campaign, but that’s it.
