# Joey\_P is a hillbilly pothead who lies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 26, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292 "2021-07-26T02:46:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/41 "2021-07-26T21:43:26Z")

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> [@dwyr](#):
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> He used to be a chiropractor.

How does someone “used to be” a chiropractor? Get a promotion to Ear Candler?

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/42 "2021-07-26T21:52:08Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> He didn’t show up (or, rather, pick up his phone since it was a telephone hearing) and the appeal was dismissed for failure to appear. He appealed the dismissal (the failure to appear dismissal), which requires good cause, because he ‘can’t answer his phone at work’.

Wait. Doesn’t that excuse mean that he has a job and is therefore not unemployed?

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/43 "2021-07-26T22:02:09Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> We got burned a while back and it was a great learning lesson for me. We hired someone, she took on a second job a few weeks later, however, she worked at our place 8am-4pm and her new job needed here there 9-5. She offered to work from 8-8:45am or 5:30 to 7pm. Naturally, that didn’t work for us, so we fired her. She filled unemployment stating she was fired for ‘misconduct’. I appealed it, told them it wasn’t for misconduct but rather an availability to work issue. I showed the court commissioner her original job application in which she handwrote that she could work 8am-4pm, I showed him our work schedule where she was on every M-F 8am-4pm since she had been employed, I showed him her time cards showing that she had been working those hours and then I showed him a handwritten note from her saying she couldn’t work those hours anymore.  
> I lost the case.

What was she filing a UI claim for if she left a full time job for a full time job? Did you lose in a technical sense, but she also didn’t get any compensation?

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/44 "2021-07-26T22:09:57Z")

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Gotta share a forklift story here. 20-some years ago, my husband was plant engineer for a wire mill. He got a call in the wee small stupid hours of the morning - one of the material handlers hit a roof support while carrying a ton anna half of spooled steel rod.

His ballcap had blown off and he turned to grab it… while still moving… This was a big building and the roof span was significant, tho I don’t remember specifics. I do remember they had to stop production until they could get a crew in to build a support to take the load of the damaged post. The repairs and lost production were $$$$$$.

Yeah, he was fired.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/45 "2021-07-26T22:23:54Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Wait. Doesn’t that excuse mean that he has a job and is therefore not unemployed?

I think he’s trying make a claim on the week or two he went without one. Either that, or this is still part of his previous claim where he said we cut his hours in half (which we didn’t, and payroll records that prove it).

> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> What was she filing a UI claim for if she left a full time job for a full time job? Did you lose in a technical sense, but she also didn’t get any compensation?

That was the thing, even though she won, I don’t think she got anything. At one point I called the UI office to ask them a question and the person suggested it’s not even worth pursing since she’d been working for us for such a short time (and now has a job) that she’s not likely to get any money anyways.  
Oddly enough, when we first hired her, someone from a nearby restaurant saw her and told us to be careful because she’ll likely hit us for unemployment. Apparently, this is kinda her thing.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/46 "2021-07-26T22:42:11Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> They UI dept stated that since she was working at a new job, she’s clearly ‘available to work’. She won on a technicality.

From my experience with UI in California, they define “available to work” to mean you would be able to accept a new job today if someone were to offer you one. Which basically boils down to not being too sick/injured to work, and not being out of town on vacation. Since she was working a new job she clearly wasn’t either of those, but also not unemployed, which makes it strange that she’d be trying to claim unemployment (which I see was already covered in later posts).

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/47 "2021-07-26T23:04:08Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I mean, all of us can read, right? Well, READ THE NOTE!
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> > Joey P is a HillBilly POT head. Who lies.

I like the semi-random capitalization in “HillBilly” – is this guy a Sovereign Citizen?  
Or just a graduate of the Wisconsin education system?

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/48 "2021-07-27T03:36:21Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Sorry, it clearly says he’s a “HiИBiИy POT head”

Joey\_P is gonna have a hard time denying that one.

And doesn’t changing stationary mid-screed invalidate the entire document? Or is that just for manifestos?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/49 "2021-07-27T04:23:05Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Joey\_P is gonna have a hard time denying that one.

Can I ask the respondent (aka plaintiff) to define “HiИBiИy”, specifically in the context of “HiИBiИy POT head” and perhaps call in an etymologist or linguist as an expert witness to confirm or dispute it?

> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> And doesn’t changing stationary mid-screed invalidate the entire document? Or is that just for manifestos?

I chose not to call it a manifesto because it wasn’t exactly a call for action or a political agenda. It was more of a mostly off-topic rambling that may have addressed a few points but was mostly an irrelevant attack on the character’s of myself, my business and my employer.  
In fact, my name should never have even appeared in it. My name was never mentioned in any reply to the UI office. The fact that he tossed that in just goes to show he knows he doesn’t have a leg to stand on so he’s throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.  
It reminds me of when I took an ex-roommate to court. The judge ruled in my favor and him and his dad started yelling accusations at me. Accusations that had nothing to do with the court case. The judge even told them to knock it off.  
In any case, I think changing up the stationary or handwriting or direction or overall ‘feel’ mid screed can only help my case.

> [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](#):
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> I like the semi-random capitalization in “HillBilly” – is this guy a Sovereign Citizen?  
> Or just a graduate of the Wisconsin education system?

Well, if he graduated anything in the Wisconsin education system, it wasn’t anything beyond high school. I could see him going Sovereign Citizen though I don’t think he falls quite that far Right. He’s always struggled with money, but when another employee offered to set him up with a welfare agent to get on their insurance (which is really good) or food stamps or supplemental income, he took a pass. When Obamacare passed, he could have received money back based on what he was paying for our insurance, but when I told him, he didn’t want anything to do with it.  
Which is odd since he keeps saying that we (his employer) don’t pay any part of his unemployment insurance, implying it’s [free] government money. Why he’s fighting so hard for this free government money but eschews welfare (when he really needed it) or a refund on his insurance premiums, I have no idea.

Oh, and BTW, this guy is like 50-60. It’s not that this is some 20 year old know-it-all…he’s a ‘grown up’. But his ‘blame everyone else’ attitude has a knack for getting him into more trouble than it gets him out of.  
And I mean this 100% literally, I’ve never in my entire life seen someone spend so much time and energy attempting to be lazy even when nearly every single time he’s only making more work for himself.

For example, and this is generalized, but a very good representation of something that happened constantly. We say ‘can you take all these boxes and put them in the back left corner of the walk in cooler?’ An hour later, we’d go into the cooler for something and see them stacked right inside the door. We’d confront him about it and he’d say that someone moved them. We’d say 'so, you’re saying that you put them all the way in the back of the cooler and John then took all 20 of them and moved them to right next to the door? Is that what you’re saying?" Naturally, we knew it was BS (and could often prove it) and we’d have him move them again. Now he has to pick up all those boxes again, put them back on the cart they were already on and move them a second time. Had he done it right the first time, the ONLY difference would have been walking about 40 more feet.

And, like we weren’t going to notice it?  
[https://64.media.tumblr.com/96108049f45281d9a4e66a0f9b54a794/1061ef12ca3e4bca-b8/s540x810/124cf00808534d11a8de13e2dcfa49938fead893.gif](https://64.media.tumblr.com/96108049f45281d9a4e66a0f9b54a794/1061ef12ca3e4bca-b8/s540x810/124cf00808534d11a8de13e2dcfa49938fead893.gif)

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/50 "2021-07-27T04:40:40Z")

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If you are bringing an etymologist, you may as well have a forensic stationery expert as well. The judge will be impressed.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/51 "2021-07-27T18:47:58Z")

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I thought of Joey\_P while stopped at a traffic light on the Bypass today. Coming from the opposite direction was a white pickup truck hauling an array of used furniture (a phenomenon Mrs. J. and I customarily refer to as “Kentucky Van Lines”). A prominent decal at the top of the pickup’s windshield proclaimed “Hillbilly Heaven”.

No cannabis stickers though.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/52 "2021-07-27T18:58:37Z")

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My store sells hot soup. They change every day and every day we put them up on twitter. One day I got a notification that “Cannabis News retweeted you”. Took me a minute to figure out why, then I realized that one of our soups had the word ‘pot’ in it (pot stickers, pot roast something like that).

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**Author:** ![dwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwyr/32/363_2.png) [@dwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwyr)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/53 "2021-07-27T19:53:15Z")

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He had three failed practices. He had his mother act as receptionist (unpaid of course) and had her call him if a patient came in as he was usually water skiing. Apparently this business model didn’t work out. Oh, and he refused to take insurance - didn’t believe in it.  
HIs lack of judgement extended to all areas really. He left his first wife for a woman who had already had five previous marriages. She took him for what money he had then ditched him.  
He would ignore work until somebody else came along to finally do it, which is not ideal in a hospital laboratory where people are waiting for results to determine treatment. He and I got into a few heated arguments about that. And one memorable dispute over his belief that bacteria don’t cause diseases. I challenged him to go into the microbiology department and lick a culture plate to prove it. But he did not take me up on it. Pity.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/54 "2021-07-27T23:13:50Z")

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In high school I was voted most likely to be a hillbilly pothead who lies.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/55 "2021-07-28T02:07:45Z")

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Your request to change your user name to “Hillbilly Pothead” has been approved.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/56 "2021-07-28T02:23:21Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> I would have loved to see the video of the pallets tumbling.

It looked something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8YdMhCEqsQ&t=15s).

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/57 "2021-07-28T13:59:15Z")

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wow, just wow. that is quite the video.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/58 "2021-07-28T16:59:58Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’m not a hillbilly.

We have witnesses that say you are.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/59 "2021-07-28T20:50:58Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> wow, just wow. that is quite the video.

For years I’ve wondered what was on those shelves. Finally found a reference to the name of the warehouse, that was enough to find the news story and… cheeeeese!

The forklift driver was alive, but it took 8 hours to move enough cheese to get him out.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/joey-p-is-a-hillbilly-pothead-who-lies/947292/60 "2021-07-28T21:42:27Z")

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Probably would’ve taken 12 or more hours if he hadn’t done his part and started eating his way out.

Gotta say, “lying hillbilly pothead” really settled it–OP, if you’re ever in my neck of the woods I’d be happy to buy you an adult beverage of your choice! Or a pre-roll from a good dispensary, your call. Durned potheads. 😉

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