# John Boehner and Obama too **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 1, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852 "2011-09-01T16:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/121 "2011-09-03T19:31:01Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yes, it would be wise. I would do the same if someone showed up, unannounced, at my office in order to make a speech. Especially if they sent a security detail 3 hours ahead of time to secure the area. You know about that, don’t you? The president doesn’t just pop over to the Capitol building whenever he feels like it. Not just someone, President of the United States. And not unannounced. His intent has been well known for some time. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/122 "2011-09-03T20:21:51Z")
Feeling like voting Republican in '12? Heck, in that case Obama is your best bet. You’ll never see a more competent Republican than him- he seems to give them just about everything they want. I don’t know what Obama has in mind with all his caving. In a lot of cases the issues seem fairly trivial- I didn’t even know there was a new rule in the pipe for ozone levels, and the people who live in places with a lot of fog are screwed already, so if the rules really would cost jobs (and pubbies threaten that EVERY policy will cost jobs) then they’d be screwed plus unemployed. Obama does his job and hears the other side, it is just too bad that the other side is basically bonkers and he pretends not to notice. I’ll let it all go if Obama takes a stand on the big issues. Tax policy for the wealthy simply must change- as it stands the policies are a version of regulatory capture a la the MMS. We gotta get people back to work. We need to change how we generate power. Most other issues are a bunch of blah blah blah by comparison. They’re bickering over the date of the speech? Makes the GOP look like children once again, unless you are an Obama hater, in which I suppose it makes them look cool. Next! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/123 "2011-09-03T22:36:16Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Not just someone, President of the United States. And not unannounced. His intent has been well known for some time. You want him to just show up. And I’m not Speaker of the House. Make it the mayor of my town and posit that I’m politically aligned with his rival, and you’re damn sure I’ll tell him “no”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/124 "2011-09-03T22:49:40Z")
They are trying to make Obama the new Jimmy Carter, the guy everybody agrees was terrible but nobody can tell you why. The people who provide the money that makes the illusion of Republican parity possible have buttloads of money, they will still have buttloads of money no matter what happens to you and me. So why should they care what happens to you and me? Especially if it turns out to be a stern lesson for us, so that we aren’t so uppity and demanding. This maybe one of the last Labor Day weekends we have. It will be Job Creators Day, and we will all work a day for free, donating our wages for the wedding of the Princess of BoA and the youngest son of the Duke of General Electric. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/125 "2011-09-03T23:04:53Z")
Bad choice of corporations. If GE has a Duke, it’ll be because Obama made its CEO (and CotB, btw) his Jobs Czar. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/126 "2011-09-03T23:36:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > This maybe one of the last Labor Day weekends we have. It will be Job Creators Day, and we will all work a day for free, donating our wages for the wedding of the Princess of BoA and the youngest son of the Duke of General Electric. To be held in the Duchy of ExxonMobil, I’m guessing. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/127 "2011-09-04T00:54:14Z")
I own stock in all three companies mentioned in the above post+quote. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/128 "2011-09-04T03:56:05Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I own stock in all three companies mentioned in the above post+quote. 😛 I only own stock in one of them. _Three_ is beyond the pale, sir. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/129 "2011-09-04T12:46:41Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I only own stock in one of them. _Three_ is beyond the pale, sir. I’m guessing that all three of them, then, would constitute the axis of corporate evil. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/130 "2011-09-04T15:21:31Z")
I once bought a pair of tennies that had been sewn together by child labor. Got them at the Goodwill, so I’m hoping that de-toxifies the karma some. Anyway, when you guys get to Hell, save a nice spot in the shade. Be along directly. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/131 "2011-09-04T16:45:30Z")
Yeah, well, what can I say. 4Q 2008 through 2Q 2009 was a _really great_ time to buy a lot of stocks. It might be another 20 years before we see such valuations again. Remember: you make money when you buy, not when you sell. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/132 "2011-09-04T19:16:21Z")
I’m being facetious. After Socialism comes to America we can all sell our stocks and be free from the horrors of overwork through the shared ownership of the means of production. Until then, dividends are probably our best bet. Yah, 2008-2009 was a great time to buy. Also, there is right this minute. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/133 "2011-09-04T20:06:30Z")
True, there are still bargains out there. Bank of America is one: I bought a 1,000 shares a couple of weeks ago @ $6.87. A week later, Warren Buffet buys $5 billion of it. Of course, my shares don’t pay me 6% interest, but I like the vote of confidence anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852/134 "2011-09-04T21:07:58Z")
I just don’t invest in banks, on principle I guess. Maybe I’m a hypocrite though- it was hard not to notice that the price of GE stock dropped about 1/3 after the moronic debt-ceiling debacle. This after they just managed to pay zero taxes on $14 billion in profits- sure seems like a company that can rebound to me. And they build wind turbines!!! And if their future dividends behave like they did over the last 3 decades, there is reason to expect 6% or better returns if you just sit on it for a couple of years. I am not a professional investor however, beware… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-and-obama-too/594852.md?page=6)