# John Boehner sex scandal

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 10, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853 "2011-02-10T03:48:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/41 "2011-02-10T16:52:03Z")

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In honestly, I’m not horribly offended if this is true. I’m pretty sure Boehner would be on the wrong side of any possible issue, regardless of who is toking the Little Orphan Orange Otterpop.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/42 "2011-02-10T17:13:19Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Good find–serves me right for being flippant. My pissed-offedness returns to previously-scheduled levels.

Thanks. When I saw who she lobbies for, my first thought was “this is probably the only way to improve newspaper and book sales.” But there are some significant issues here and you don’t want Congressional leaders to be sleeping with people who are lobbying on this stuff - even if those positions sound pretty typical for Republicans anyway.

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/43 "2011-02-10T17:26:16Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I take it as a given that 99% of politicians don’t give a rat’s ass about me or my family: I’m not incorporated, nor do I work the phone banks during elections, nor do I work in a state with significant union protections. So I vote not according to their character, but according to my best prediction of the laws they’ll vote for and the laws they’ll vote against.
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> I have a very low opinion of the character of most people involved in politics. So low that, despite knowing about John Edward’s sleaziness, it’s possible I’d vote for him, depending on the race.
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> It’s not what they do with their naughty bits that concerns me. It’d concern me if I were married to one of them, but I’m not, so it doesn’t. It’s what they do with their vote that concerns me.
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> And if they’re literally in bed with corporate lobbyists, I suspect they’ll be voting in a way I don’t like.

Not trying to kick a dead horse on this. But it seems to me that the only way we can predict on how they will vote (your criteria) is by how they have voted in the past, or how they say they will vote. And if they have absolutely no moral compass, as evidenced by their complete lack of concern for those the ostensibly care most about (their family) how do you think you’ll be able to predict how they’ll vote? They’ll lie on the stump, and they’ll sell out to the highest bidder.

We bitch that the country is broken, that Congress is broken, and then don’t care that our Congressmen are scum bags. There is a relationship.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/44 "2011-02-10T17:34:50Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> The problem with a politician doing anything immoral is that it becomes blackmail material. Politicians have power and that power can be coerced. If I know a politician is having an affair, I can put pressure on him to encourage legislation that is favorable to me.

I have a problem with anyone, including politicians, having affairs because it’s wrong. Period. So Republicans nor Democrats will get a pass on that in my book.

The issue for me is hypocrisy. Republicans put themselves out there as the party of morality, yet, at this point, whenever I hear of a politician embroiled in a sex scandal it is usually a Republican, and I expect it to be, and am no longer surprised.

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/45 "2011-02-10T17:35:50Z")

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Did Boehner lean on Rep. Christopher Lee to retire after his recent Craig’s List flirtation?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/46 "2011-02-10T17:49:18Z")

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> [@Ca3799](#):
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> Did Boehner lean on Rep. Christopher Lee to retire after his recent Craig’s List flirtation?

From Faux News, via post #17:

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> Dating back to his time as House Minority Leader, current Speaker John Boehner has enforced a no-shenanigans policy among the GOP rank-and-file. But Wednesday night, Boehner said he did lean on Lee to resign. In 2008, Boehner persuaded former Rep. Vito Fossella (R-NY) to resign after a drunk driving arrest revealed that the Staten Island Republican had a secret family in Virginia. Boehner also got former Rep. Mark Souder (R-IN) to step down quickly last spring after he admitted to an affair with a Congressional aide. Initially, Souder wanted to finish out the balance of his term.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/47 "2011-02-10T18:20:40Z")

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Cheating on your wife is a shitty thing to do, but you almost have to admire the balls and resourceful sliminess of the kind of guy who’d have a secret second family. I don’t know where these jerkoffs find the time. It does make infidelity and compromised ethics look like small potatoes.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/48 "2011-02-10T18:34:20Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> Appropriate in terms of not creating a conflict of interest? A waitress? Bus driver? Dietician? Veterinarian tech? Gardner? Musician? It’s a real city; they do things other than write laws and govern.

How do meet the Real People? Do they? I have never met anyone more than one degree from a government job in D.C.

> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I have a problem with anyone, including politicians, having affairs because it’s wrong. Period.

Why? It is possible that an affair does not involve lying and cheating. If that is so, who am I to judge the marraige?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/49 "2011-02-10T18:45:09Z")

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If it was Jane Nobody, I don’t really care if John bones her or not. I think it being a lobbyist holds some conflict of interest issues that probably warrants him stepping down as Speaker.

We’ll know if this story has real legs when Fox starts to identify him with the graphic John Boehner (D-OH)

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/50 "2011-02-10T18:46:43Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Cheating on your wife is a shitty thing to do, but you almost have to admire the balls and resourceful sliminess of the kind of guy who’d have a secret second family. I don’t know where these jerkoffs find the time. It does make infidelity and compromised ethics look like small potatoes.

There was a thread a long time ago about men caught with hidden second families, and it was pretty crazy how many Dopers knew someone who had tried to pull it off. For something that seems a) really risky and b) not very much fun, its apparently much more common then I’d expect.

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**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/51 "2011-02-10T18:59:37Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Did John Boneher?

What? No one has posted the name of the second possible woman: Leigh Lamora?

Job security for the comedy writers.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/52 "2011-02-10T19:01:39Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> There was a thread a long time ago about men caught with hidden second families, and it was pretty crazy how many Dopers knew someone who had tried to pull it off. For something that seems a) really risky and b) not very much fun, its apparently much more common then I’d expect.

That does not apply here. Boehner does not have a second family, but a second set of morals. Her has a set he proudly proclaims as he speaks to constituents and fellow right wingers. He lives by another.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/53 "2011-02-10T19:03:31Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> That does not apply here. Boehner does not have a second family, but a second set of morals. Her has a set he proudly proclaims as he speaks to constituents and fellow right wingers. He lives by another.

I was responding to **Marley’s** aside regarding Vito Fossella, who did in fact have a second family.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/54 "2011-02-10T19:05:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> We’ll know if this story has real legs when Fox starts to identify him with the graphic John Boehner (D-OH)

😃

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**Author:** ![Burton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Burton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burton)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/55 "2011-02-10T19:15:41Z")

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“Anyone heard of the possible sex scandal brewing for John Boehner?”

No but I hope it’s true.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/56 "2011-02-10T19:27:17Z")

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Somehow I’m doubting the veracity of this story. I think Boehner is pretty much a douche-bag but I don’t think he’s an idiot. If he’s fucking around on his wife, I don’t think he could dredge up enough balls to make Chris Lee resign for \*wanting \*to fuck around on his wife. Unless his whole point was to make Chris Lee resign for \*getting caught \*wanting to fuck around on his wife.  
On the other hand, if it does turn out to be true … I will be throroughly entertained.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/57 "2011-02-10T19:58:35Z")

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I hope it’s true and I hope he resigns. Actually, I don’t care if it’s true, I just want him and his ilk (the over-religious evangelical types) out of Congress. But most of all I hope they pass a mollyfocking Continuing Resolution before the feces hit the fan.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/58 "2011-02-10T20:09:17Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Let me rephrase then. If he is doing something to his skin to cause the unnatural coloration, it is ridiculous.
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> I strongly suspect he is doing, or has done, something to affect his skin’s pigmentation as the color is unnatural, and too even to be the result of skin disorders that can cause his type of coloration such as melasma or pigmentary purpura.

Well, this is Great Debates, so bring a cite or drop it. You can “strongly suspect” all you want in IMHO, but here we deal with facts. Not to mention that his skin tone has zero to do with the thread topic anyway.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/59 "2011-02-10T20:16:52Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Now I want to cue Stubby Kaye: “Shenanigans, we’ll have a lot of fun, shenanigans…” (you gotta be 50+ to remember this one).

I’m way over 50+ and I don’t remember it. Of course, that could be due to the fact that I’m way over 50+.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-boehner-sex-scandal/570853/60 "2011-02-10T20:26:04Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I’m way over 50+ and I don’t remember it. Of course, that could be due to the fact that I’m way over 50+.

Here’s the [closing song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKBg-76bbM) at about the 7:00 mark. It was a kids’ game show.

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