# John Bolton fired via Tweet

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 10, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990 "2019-09-10T16:13:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/1 "2019-09-10T16:13:25Z")

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Or that’s at least how this news went public. [Tweet](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1171452880055746560).

Mr. ‘5,000 troops to Colombia’ is out. Good. Fuck that war mongering piece of garbage.

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### Author: ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/2 "2019-09-10T16:16:37Z")

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Very funny video clip (toward the top for now) in a response there, of Trump calling him “Mike Bolton”.

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### Author: ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/3 "2019-09-10T16:18:35Z")

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I’m glad to see the back of him. He’s a horror show.

I just worry how much worse the horror show gets going forward. And when one must worry about how bad things can get after John Bolton, one knows we are in serious trouble.

LOL, **bobot** , I can hear how that ran through his demented head: “Therefore, I’m firing Mike P – John Bolton!”

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### Author: ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/4 "2019-09-10T16:19:12Z")

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I’m not sorry Bolton is gone, but … was this anything close to a reasoned decision, or just Trump being impetuous? Were there signs Bolton was on his way out or did this announcement come out of the blue?

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### Author: ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/5 "2019-09-10T16:19:52Z")

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Damn it!

I’d been meaning to start a Trump administration death pool thread in Elections, and was going to put Bolton at the top of my list. Now it’s too late.

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### Author: ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/6 "2019-09-10T16:23:00Z")

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[Bolton counter Tweets](https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1171455806069305346)!

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> I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, “Let’s talk about it tomorrow.”

Dysfunctional fucking shitshow.

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### Author: ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/7 "2019-09-10T16:26:34Z")

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Trump has never made a _reasoned_ decision.

Anyone who works for him ought to know by now that he will eventually turn on them.

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### Author: ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/8 "2019-09-10T16:31:28Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Very funny video clip (toward the top for now) in a response there, of Trump calling him “Mike Bolton”.

Trump probably thought he had hired Michael Bolton, and it took him this long to figure out who the guy with the walrus mustache was that kept showing up.

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/9 "2019-09-10T16:39:02Z")

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Kudos to Trump for doing the right thing— by which I mean correcting his horrible decision to appoint Bolton in the first place, and doing so on a whim, for the dumbest, pettiest, most narcissistic and ill-considered reasons.

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### Author: ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/10 "2019-09-10T16:39:27Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I’m not sorry Bolton is gone, but … was this anything close to a reasoned decision, or just Trump being impetuous? Were there signs Bolton was on his way out or did this announcement come out of the blue?

_When you lay dying on Afghanistans plain_s… Bolton wanted to remian.

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### Author: ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/11 "2019-09-10T16:48:28Z")

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[Kipling, “The Young British Soldier”:](http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_youngbrit.htm)

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> When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,  
> And the women come out to cut up what remains,  
> Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains  
> An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.

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### Author: ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/12 "2019-09-10T16:49:51Z")

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A co-worker just walked in and announced, “Trump finally did something right!”

I guessed “shot himself in the head,” but that wasn’t it.

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### Author: ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/13 "2019-09-10T16:58:44Z")

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Yes, I strongly opposed Bolton’s efforts to block Venezuela from being taking over by a dictator, protect democracy in Hong Kong, and treat the Taliban like partial instigators of 9/11.

Good riddance!

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### Author: ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/14 "2019-09-10T17:05:55Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Yes, I strongly opposed Bolton’s efforts to block Venezuela from being taking over by a dictator, protect democracy in Hong Kong, and treat the Taliban like partial instigators of 9/11.
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> Good riddance!

And don’t forget the constant pressing to go to war with Iran…

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### Author: ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/15 "2019-09-10T17:19:57Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I’m not sorry Bolton is gone, but … was this anything close to a reasoned decision, or just Trump being impetuous? Were there signs Bolton was on his way out or did this announcement come out of the blue?

My guess is that he simply lost the Bolton vs Pompeo over-the-top battle royal grudge match.

It’s been said before, but this seems to be further proof — if any were needed — that CFSG loves it when his subordinates are at each others’ throats. Like a certain other historical autocrat whose name escapes me at the moment (Adelbert? Adramelech? …).

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### Author: ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/16 "2019-09-10T17:21:33Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> And don’t forget the constant pressing to go to war with Iran…

And Churchill believed that they needed to slap Germany on the wrist after they remilitarized the Rhineland.

One notes that Israel has destroyed a number of Iranian military possessions in Syria, near the Israeli border, as “slaps on the wrist” and those were effective and did not lead to war. They just stopped Iran from continually testing the resolve of Israel.

Asserting that X means war does not mean that X means war. That view needs to be backed by evidence and reason, not a personal animosity for military action, regardless of everything.

The current evidence is that Iran is rational. They take what they can get away with and stop when they can’t.

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### Author: ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/17 "2019-09-10T17:27:31Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Kudos to Trump for doing the right thing— by which I mean correcting his horrible decision to appoint Bolton in the first place, and doing so on a whim, for the dumbest, pettiest, most narcissistic and ill-considered reasons.

This is still what passes for good news these days.

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### Author: ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/18 "2019-09-10T17:31:44Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I’m not sorry Bolton is gone, but … was this anything close to a reasoned decision, or just Trump being impetuous? Were there signs Bolton was on his way out or did this announcement come out of the blue?

[He finally had had enough of those ridiculous sideburns!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi_5lXIT5AY)

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### Author: ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/19 "2019-09-10T17:48:50Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Yes, I strongly opposed Bolton’s efforts to block Venezuela from being taking over by a dictator, protect democracy in Hong Kong, and treat the Taliban like partial instigators of 9/11.
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> Good riddance!

You’ve got to learn to be more Moneyball about this - Bolton’s below his VORNSA because of the Iran thing, not because of any of those things.

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### Author: ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/20 "2019-09-10T18:15:49Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Yes, I strongly opposed Bolton’s efforts to block Venezuela from being taking over by a dictator, protect democracy in Hong Kong, and treat the Taliban like partial instigators of 9/11.
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> Good riddance!

Oh you beautiful goofball. Don’t ever change.

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