# John Bolton fired via Tweet

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990 "2019-09-10T16:13:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/41 "2019-09-11T02:44:16Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> _When you lay dying on Afghanistans plain_s… Bolton wanted to remian.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Kipling, “The Young British Soldier”:](http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_youngbrit.htm)

As I recall, I was the first person here to quote that poem regarding America’s adventure in Afghanistan. Another peril of a Liberal Arts education.

> [@bobot](#):
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> Very funny video clip (toward the top for now) in a response there, of Trump calling him “Mike Bolton”.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Let him change \*his \*name. He’s the one who sucks.

Movies! Is there nothing they can’t teach us?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/42 "2019-09-11T02:56:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I am thinking that Bolton was fired for scuttling Trump’s proposed talks with his new best friends the Taliban at Camp David, to take place on the anniversary of 9/11. This may have been a bridge too far for Bolton.
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> Although I admit it would have been absolutely \*fascinating \* to hear the Trumpistas try to say what a great thing it was for Trump to wine and dine Taliban leaders, and have a toast and a laugh right on the 9/11 anniversary.

You guys really love eternal wars don’t you? Great that “fight for freedom” is occurring. Just as long as other people’s sons are doing the fighting and dying.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/43 "2019-09-11T03:36:19Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> You guys really love eternal wars don’t you? Great that “fight for freedom” is occurring. Just as long as other people’s sons are doing the fighting and dying.

Well, 2 things, many did warn you and many Republicans that Trump in power would be chaos. That BTW did include being a dofus and an untrustworthy guy with to do negotiations with.

And second: you forgot who where the ones that were more willing to get us into the wars in the middle east for their own benefit or the profit of their buddies.

> **[Opinion | The New Rove-Cheney Assault on Reality (Published 2010)](https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/opinion/14rich.html)**
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> The revisionist history peddled by Liz Cheney and Karl Rove must be aggressively refuted, and we must remember who really failed to keep America safe.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/44 "2019-09-11T03:44:04Z")

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Bolton looks like a carnival barker, Trumpfuck IS a carnival barker, that’s why he was chosen. A guy who looks like a snake oil salesman will always be a Trump hire. So, yes. Joe Arpaio is probably next candidate.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/45 "2019-09-11T04:25:48Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> You guys really love eternal wars don’t you?

Firefighters  
Doctors  
Police  
Gardeners  
Teachers

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/46 "2019-09-11T07:04:41Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Hey, if you’re going to post stuff like that, you have to make it clearer that you were sarcastically inventing a Trump tweet. Because I kind of believed that tweet was real and had to check to verify that it wasn’t.

Heh. That’s happened to me so many times when someone was making fun of him. The problem with channeling Trumpspeak is that no matter how over the top you get, there’s going to be that lingering doubt. You really can’t get any crazier than he is. I’ll have to be more careful. 😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/47 "2019-09-11T14:09:39Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> I’m having a hard time deciding whom to believe in regards to the circumstances of this resignation (i.e., was he asked to resign or was it his decision). I mean, what do you do when you have two people of zero credibility disagreeing on how it went down?!?

Bolton is a crazy person and an arsehole, but I have no reason to doubt his honesty. Conversely, I have every reason to doubt that anything the Very Stable Genius says is true.

Besides, why would Bolton lie about being fired? Everyone in this administration gets fired. Just say “Trump fired me because he disagreed with my views on X.”

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/48 "2019-09-11T14:33:12Z")

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The plot sickens – it’s possible that the _real_ last straw was the Orange One getting the idea into his empty head that Bolton was the one who leaked the story about him [asking if hurricanes could be disrupted by nuking them](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/trump-dumped-bolton-because-he-thought-he-leaked-one-of-the-wildest-stories-about-his-presidency-sources/).

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/49 "2019-09-11T14:46:15Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Bolton is a crazy person and an arsehole, but I have no reason to doubt his honesty. Conversely, I have every reason to doubt that anything the Very Stable Genius says is true.
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> Besides, why would Bolton lie about being fired? Everyone in this administration gets fired. Just say “Trump fired me because he disagreed with my views on X.”

It wouldn’t surprise if the conversation went something like this:

Bolton, “If you feel that way about it Mr President, you may have my resignation.”

Trump, “That’s it, you’re fired.”

In that case, Bolton can say quite truthfully that he resigned, and Trump can think he fired him.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/50 "2019-09-11T15:09:32Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I am thinking that Bolton was fired for scuttling Trump’s proposed talks with his new best friends the Taliban at Camp David, to take place on the anniversary of 9/11.

I heard this too. When the Hawk is the one fighting for, “You can’t host them there then.” we are definitely in one of Alice’s Wonderland.

\*Not that this is new or surprising but there have been multiple stories that stuff is kept from him such that the country in some semblance of normalcy can run while he sends his tweets & makes up weather forecasts. One person saying, “You want to _host_ the Taliban on the _week of 9/11_?” should have put a quick end to that thought but it sounds like it didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/51 "2019-09-11T15:29:24Z")

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I got fired by email once.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/52 "2019-09-12T05:16:34Z")

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[Tucker Carlson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s6gHEHmJzc&feature=youtu.be&t=681):

> [@Tucker Carlson](#):
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> If you’re wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton’s firing tonight, it’s because Bolton himself fundamentally was a man of the left… Don’t let the moustache fool you, John Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump administration.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/53 "2019-09-12T13:31:19Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> It wouldn’t surprise if the conversation went something like this:
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> Bolton, “If you feel that way about it Mr President, you may have my resignation.”
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> Trump, “That’s it, you’re fired.”
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> In that case, Bolton can say quite truthfully that he resigned, and Trump can think he fired him.

I suspect it went [more like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqQ62B8xdJc).

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/54 "2019-09-12T14:06:40Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [Tucker Carlson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s6gHEHmJzc&feature=youtu.be&t=681):

“If you’re wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton’s firing tonight, it’s because you’re a gullible idiot. They aren’t.”

FTFH

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/55 "2019-09-12T16:03:49Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I got fired by email once.

That never happened to me (getting fired, let alone by email, I’ve always quit or been laid off) but my first girlfriend dumped me in a letter. That sure sucked, she couldn’t even be bothered to call me. (This was the mid-90s so no texting and even email was pretty new.)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/56 "2019-09-12T17:38:19Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Trump probably thought he had hired Michael Bolton, and it took him this long to figure out who the guy with the walrus mustache was that kept showing up.

Either way, he got a no-talent assclown…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/57 "2019-09-13T15:00:56Z")

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I never liked Bolton. Still don’t. But dammit, the man _deserved to be treated with more respect_ than that.

He serves at the pleasure of the President. And if the President no longer wants him, he should be allowed the opportunity to resign. Firing him like he was a contestant on The Apprentice is undignified.

And I get it. On the list of this President’s sins, it is pretty much near the bottom. But this one should irk conservatives as well.

And Tucker Carlson is an idiot.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/58 "2019-09-13T15:40:04Z")

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Trump is getting _credit_ for firing Bolton. The same dumbshit moron who hired him is getting _credit_ for fixing his own mistake. :smack:

Could the bar be set any lower for this pathetic, bumbling and incompetent shitbird?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/59 "2019-09-13T15:48:41Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That never happened to me (getting fired, let alone by email, I’ve always quit or been laid off) but my first girlfriend dumped me in a letter. That sure sucked, she couldn’t even be bothered to call me. (This was the mid-90s so no texting and even email was pretty new.)

OMG, you’re still not over that? I told you, I hate breakup phone sex.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/60 "2019-09-13T15:53:43Z")

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The way I look at it, when all these people sold their souls to become puppets of this demon, they sentenced themselves to ultimately getting exactly what they deserved. It yet again proves, “When you dine with devil, you’d better bring a long spoon.”

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