# John Bolton fired via Tweet **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990 "2019-09-10T16:13:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/61 "2019-09-13T15:54:25Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > And Tucker Carlson is an idiot. It’s interesting to see where he views the political center line to be. George W. Bush would clearly be a socialist. Would he also view Dick Cheney to be on the political left and a progressive? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/62 "2019-09-13T16:11:18Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > It’s interesting to see where he views the political center line to be. George W. Bush would clearly be a socialist. Would he also view Dick Cheney to be on the political left and a progressive? I believe Tucker would find some nice words to say at Hitler’s funeral. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/63 "2019-09-14T00:09:32Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > The way I look at it, when all these people sold their souls to become puppets of this demon, they sentenced themselves to ultimately getting exactly what they deserved. It yet again proves, “When you dine with devil, you’d better bring a long spoon.” So, Mitch McConnell comes to you and says, “I will force the President to hire you as NSA. You will have significant control over our national security policy and have power to minimize the President’s worst impulses - though you will have to accept enough bad decisions that you are able to maintain the position long enough that you can continue to block his worst impulses. If you choose not, then the President will appoint Alex Jones and, because of his popularity with the Republican base, the Senate will be forced to approve him. If you last long enough in the role, then there’s an 80% chance that we will be able to push another semi-qualified individual onto the President over Alex Jones. If not, then he will probably appoint Alex Jones.” Sometimes, all of the options are bad, but some are less worse. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/64 "2019-09-14T14:55:02Z")
National Security Advisor does not require senate approval. Moscow Mitch has no leverage here. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/65 "2019-09-14T15:42:52Z")
That’s a prime example of a major problem that keeps getting passes - even people who think Trump is terrible, corrupt, and utterly incapable and unworthy of the position continue to behave as apologists, desperately searching for even modest justifications and excuses for the large cadre of Trump enablers who could easily have done more to stop or at least ameliorate not merely the worst but nearly all his ill-conceived, unconsidered impulses. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/66 "2019-09-14T15:47:56Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > National Security Advisor does not require senate approval. Moscow Mitch has no leverage here. Trump doesn’t know that… ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/67 "2019-09-14T16:13:09Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “If you’re wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton’s firing tonight, it’s because you’re a gullible idiot. They aren’t.” > > FTFH The only way in which Liberals are mourning Bolton’s passing is the sinking feeling we get (informed by experience) that this means the Trump will find someone even worse. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/68 "2019-09-14T16:50:19Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > National Security Advisor does not require senate approval. Moscow Mitch has no leverage here. A fair correction. Somehow, someone seems to have been convincing Trump to not get too insane with his National Security Advisors. So, I amend the statement to match whatever path it is that has allowed us to avoid NSA Alex Jones, to date. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/69 "2019-09-14T16:54:58Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > That’s a prime example of a major problem that keeps getting passes - even people who think Trump is terrible, corrupt, and utterly incapable and unworthy of the position continue to behave as apologists, desperately searching for even modest justifications and excuses for the large cadre of Trump enablers who could easily have done more to stop or at least ameliorate not merely the worst but nearly all his ill-conceived, unconsidered impulses. There is the other argument, that everyone should let Trump torpedo himself and his administration with bad choices. Possibly, that could be or have been the right answer, I have genuinely no way of knowing, but there are significant risks with it: 1. The nuclear codes. 2. How badly does he fuck over the nation while destroying himself? 3. Does the right realize that he’s fucking over the nation and being horrible? If the goal is to get him into impeachment territory, if that doesn’t happen because his followers like what he’s doing then all we’ve accomplished is to fuck over the country and make his base love him more. 4. Minus somewhat moral and patriotic people in the government, can we trust that Trump won’t do something more extreme like trying to claim power over Congress? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/70 "2019-09-15T03:43:04Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > You’re being too kind. Should Trump shoot himself in the head it will happen in the course of his trying to shoot someone else and missing very, very badly. He won’t deserve credit for doing something right. ade me think of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHJ8f3okrI8). ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/71 "2019-09-15T03:50:09Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > 1. Minus somewhat moral and patriotic people in the government, can we trust that Trump won’t do something more extreme like trying to claim power over Congress? He hardly needs to claim it - the Senate is still supine before him, although the Democratic House is at least doing some investigating. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990/72 "2019-09-18T19:59:06Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > And don’t forget the constant pressing to go to war with Iran… You mean constant pressing to go to war with everyone. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Let him change \*his \*name. He’s the one who sucks. ROFL > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I am thinking that Bolton was fired for scuttling Trump’s proposed talks with his new best friends the Taliban at Camp David, to take place on the anniversary of 9/11. This may have been a bridge too far for Bolton. > > Although I admit it would have been absolutely \*fascinating \* to hear the Trumpistas try to say what a great thing it was for Trump to wine and dine Taliban leaders, and have a toast and a laugh right on the 9/11 anniversary. Such a thing wouldn’t surprise me one bit, at this point. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > While I may despise Bolton, I’ll take his word over Trumpster Fire any day. Hell, I’d believe O.J.'s version of events before I’d believe anything Trump says. And ditto ditto ditto. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-bolton-fired-via-tweet/839990.md?page=3)