# John Carter of Mars

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 12, 2002, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280 "2002-04-12T18:25:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/21 "2002-04-14T01:36:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \*  
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> How about Zeta-Jones as Dejah
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No! Dejah herself has been hired as a consultant on this question, and she’s insisting on Ashley Judd, stained only slightly red with clay from \*The Dead Sea Bottoms of the Dying Planet. \*😉

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/22 "2002-04-14T01:42:47Z")

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yes, but everyone will be naked, right?  
(how about i play John Carter, and **John Carter of Mars** play Tars Tarkas!!!)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/23 "2002-04-14T01:48:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\* i play John Carter, \*\*

Er, I hate to break it to you, but you’re the one with four arms, Dude.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/24 "2002-04-14T01:49:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MrVisible \*  
> \*\*. The _Amber_ series being turned into a miniseries.  
> \*\*

:eek:

What?!

😃

More info. Now!

Please?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/25 "2002-04-14T01:51:35Z")

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Think I can’t see through that ploy, **Tars**? You can have Dejah when you pry my cold, dead fingers…

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/26 "2002-04-14T02:02:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by John Carter of Mars \*  
> \*\*Think I can’t see through that ploy, **Tars**? You can have Dejah when you pry my cold, dead fingers… \*\*

Dah!! Foiled again!!

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/27 "2002-04-14T02:16:38Z")

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Originall posted by **Tars Tarkas** “Dah!! Foiled again!!”

Cheer up, ol’ buddy! I’ll fix you up with my sister. In appearance and temperment, she is surprisingly similar to a female Thark.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/28 "2002-04-14T02:26:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> **More info. Now!**

> **[Scifi.com](https://www.syfy.com/scifi/scifiwire/art-main.html?2002-04%2F03%2F14.00.sfc)**
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> Visit Syfy.com

See also alt.books.roger-zelazny

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/29 "2002-04-14T03:56:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by John Carter of Mars \*  
> \*\*Cheer up, ol’ buddy! I’ll fix you up with my sister. In appearance and temperment, she is surprisingly similar to a female Thark. \*\*

Cool Beans!! All the slaying of my enemies and drowning their children in rivers of their parents blood leads no time to meet hot green chicks!

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/30 "2002-04-14T04:52:49Z")

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If they screw this up, then every flaming geek boy in America needs to burn Hollywood down! I have _sooooo_ wanted them to do a movie of these books. I hope to Goddess that whomever they get to do the art direction has as much talent as Whelan does and a healthy appreciation for Whelan’s art work. BTW, you can always tell a Whelan cover as he hides his initials somewhere in the art work.

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/31 "2002-04-14T13:21:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*  
> More info. Now!
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> Please?  
> \*\*

See? If you had signed up on the _Amber_ list or my message board when I told you to, you would have known about this already. 😛

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/32 "2002-04-14T14:16:27Z")

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Two things: I HOPE the Martain women are as scantily clad (as they were on the covers of the novels); and, I hope that we get to see those cool radium pistols fire!  
By the way, E.R. Burroughs has been dead for about 50 years-who owns the rights to the books? Are they in the public domain by now? If so, why would Paramount have to pay for the movie rights?

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**Author:** ![Regina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Regina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regina)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/33 "2002-04-14T16:47:44Z")

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Thanks, **Tuckerfan** , for the info on the initials. It’s kind of a calligraphic “M” in a circle. I could not find it on a few covers and suspect it is covered up by the barcode on the back.

It sounds like most of you have the same versions as I do. Does anyone else have the earlier Ballantine versions? My Chessmen of Mars was published in 1963 and has cover art by Bob Abbett. Not nearly as inspiring as the Whelan works. The Whelan covers directed my mind-pictures of the scenery and characters. I wonder how I would have envisioned them with no Whelan. Would John Carter, Deejah and Thuvia be as hot, and as impossible to duplicate by a Hollywood actor/actresses?

Ya know, even Tars Tarkas is kind of hot.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/34 "2002-04-14T17:40:43Z")

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Quoth **Kallessa** :

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> this is coming from a lady who has always dreamed of doing a personal ad that starts: “Dejah Thoris looking for her John Carter . . .”

So in other words, you want a manly, muscular geek? Lots of luck ;).

And I was sort of thinking of the Eloi chick from the recent _The Time Machine_ as Deejah Thoris, but I’ll never complain about a scantily-clad Catherine Zeta-Jones, either.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/35 "2002-04-14T20:23:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AlaItalia \*  
> \*\*  
> Ya know, even Tars Tarkas is kind of hot. \*\*

Damn right I am— oh, you mean the REAL Tars Tarkas!

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/36 "2002-04-14T21:08:21Z")

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I would just like to invite everyone to check out Edwin Lester Arnold’s “Lt. Gulliver Jones,” written several years before the “Barsoom” series started.

Marvel, in the “Creatures on the Loose” series, did a version of this story about three decades ago, and included an “inside” acknowledgement to the person who had rediscovered this book which had disappeard from print for almost half a century.

But to say more would be spoiling. . . .

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/37 "2002-04-14T21:36:49Z")

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Here are some more rumors on JCoM:

> **[More on JOHN CARTER OF MARS!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/12000)**
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> Hey folks, Harry here with more on the newly in motion JOHN CARTER OF MARS movie at Paramount. Friday I got a call from Jim Jacks, the producer (alongside Sean Daniel) on what is being envisioned as the key franchise of choice at PARAMOUNT....

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/38 "2002-04-14T21:50:08Z")

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Here are some more rumors on JCoM:

> **[More on JOHN CARTER OF MARS!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/12000)**
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> Hey folks, Harry here with more on the newly in motion JOHN CARTER OF MARS movie at Paramount. Friday I got a call from Jim Jacks, the producer (alongside Sean Daniel) on what is being envisioned as the key franchise of choice at PARAMOUNT....

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**Author:** ![bashere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bashere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bashere)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2002, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/39 "2002-04-15T00:47:31Z")

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> _Originally posted by AlaItalia_
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> Does anyone else have the earlier Ballantine versions? My Chessmen of Mars was published in 1963 and has cover art by Bob Abbett.

My Swords of Mars is the 1963 edition, with the Bob Abbett covers, as well as repeated assurances that this is the “Authorized Edition”. I kinda like the old covers. Oh, and welcome to the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-carter-of-mars/103280/40 "2002-04-15T02:58:39Z")

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A Princess Of Mars, 8th printing 1978.  
Cover by Gino D’Achille.  
Tars, you are particularly ugly on this one.  
John has his back turned and Dejah is, er, skinny.

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