# John Fetterman really needs to resign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875 "2025-05-04T22:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/123 "2025-06-05T18:08:51Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I’m glad he won and a Republican didn’t, but the man has always struck me as a slovenly, undisciplined ape. I don’t like his attempt to appear blue-collar while coming from an entirely white-collar affluent background himself. As far as I know he never worked a day in a trade or labor job. It feels like cosplay. And even still, it’s possible to look like a working man and still be smartly-dressed. A Woolrich flannel under a denim workshirt would look a lot more dignified than the sloppy hoodies and shorts this guy is attired in. His appearance might seem like a secondary element in all this but it’s undeniably part of his image, which helped him get elected, and lately it’s looking like his image is _all_ he’s got. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/124 "2025-06-05T18:31:40Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > I don’t like his attempt to appear blue-collar while coming from an entirely white-collar affluent background himself. As far as I know he never worked a day in a trade or labor job. It feels like cosplay. Yeah, he’s fake. Being folksy-fake as the mayor of Braddock, PA, is whatever, but dude is mistaken if he thinks that that “brand” is so outstanding and important that he needs to drag it into the US Senate. Get over yourself and wear a suit like everybody else! > [@](#): > > And even still, it’s possible to look like a working man and still be smartly-dressed. A Woolrich flannel under a denim workshirt would look a lot more dignified than the sloppy hoodies and shorts this guy is attired in. Exactly. It’s like another flavor of trolling in Troll Nation. > [@](#): > > His appearance might seem like a secondary element in all this but it’s undeniably part of his image, which helped him get elected, and lately it’s looking like his image is _all_ he’s got. And it’s not as though it’s fun or he seems _cool_ but fake. He’s just rather disheveled and unpleasant overall. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/125 "2025-06-06T02:14:49Z")
Pretty sure JF’s ripping off Belichick’s attire. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/126 "2025-06-06T22:39:25Z")
Well, **someone** is ripping off his sleeves. [![](https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-XH162_OTBeli_GR_20180201180208.jpg) ](https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-XH162_OTBeli_GR_20180201180208.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/127 "2025-06-08T20:29:06Z")
I have no dog in this hunt, but I ran across this counter argument for what it is worth- > **[All senators should be as ‘impaired’ as John Fetterman: Ted Diadiun](https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2025/06/all-senators-should-be-as-impaired-as-john-fetterman-ted-diadiun.html)** > > I don’t know if Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania has mental problems, as alleged in a recent New York Magazine article, or not. But if he does, I’m fine with them. We need more iconoclastic people like Fetterman who thinks for himself... _Fortunately, I was an Ohioan then and now, and was thus saved from making the mistake of attempting to thwart what has come to be one of the Senate’s more compelling voices._ _And if the same election were to be held today, I’d throw all the support I could muster behind John Fetterman_ ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/128 "2025-06-10T20:28:16Z")
Interesting he’s having dinner with a right-wing bigot at a MAGA DC haunt. [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5342616-fetterman-breaks-party-norms-immigration/](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5342616-fetterman-breaks-party-norms-immigration/) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/129 "2025-06-10T20:46:15Z")
Okay, I’ve changed my mind, if he’s hanging out with Steve Bannon and in favor of the lawless ICE thugs. Now I think it’s better than 50-50 that he’s gonna turn MAGA. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/130 "2025-06-10T21:09:28Z")
If the The Hill article is accurate, then I vote: Fuck That Guy. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/131 "2025-06-10T21:14:42Z")
At the beginning of the year, he teamed up with Katie Britt in the Laken Riley act: > **[John Fetterman breaks from party – goes on FOX to make case for Britt's...](https://yellowhammernews.com/laken-riley-act-passes-house-britt-and-fetterman-renew-push-to-get-legislation-passed-in-senate/)** > > Senators Katie Britt and John Fetterman joined Fox News on Tuesday in a show of bipartisan support for the Laken Riley Act hours after it passed the House of Representatives. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/132 "2025-06-10T22:56:14Z")
Ok it appears The Hill updated the article. I swear it initially said he had dinner with Bannon. Now it says, “Fetterman dined that night with Matt Boyle, the Washington bureau chief for Breitbart, according to Politico’s Playbook, which first reported the interaction. He did not have dinner with Bannon.” The article also claims he ran into Bannon at the restaurant and chatted for about 20 minutes. Wanted to clarify these points before anyone comes in and says I was incorrect about the dinner with Bannon thing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/133 "2025-06-10T23:01:44Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > The article also claims he ran into Bannon at the restaurant and chatted for about 20 minutes. So, this is not as bad as having dinner with him. If you just run into someone and have a pleasant conversation, that doesn’t seem as bad as deliberately deciding to have a dinner with someone. On the other hand, he shouldn’t be associating with Bannon like this anyway. He should politely excuse himself at the least. And Breitbart is a far-right publication, with racist, xenophobic, and misogynist content. I don’t know that having dinner with the political editor from that publication is any better than dinner with Bannon. It seems like it’s just as bad to me, if not worse. He’s basically MAGA in a grubby homeless sheep’s clothing at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/134 "2025-06-10T23:11:06Z")
For me, it was the thumbs-up photo with the qanon shaman, which, strangely enough, I can no longer find. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/135 "2025-06-10T23:27:45Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Okay, I’ve changed my mind, if he’s hanging out with Steve Bannon and in favor of the lawless ICE thugs. Now that [Trump wants Gov. Newsom arrested](https://ktla.com/news/california/trump-endorses-arrest-of-gavin-newsom/) and [Mike Johnson wants Newsom tarred and feathered](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/10/mike-johnson-says-newsom-tarred-feathered-defying-trump/84132999007/), is [Newsom having Bannon on his podcast](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/17/gavin-newsom-steve-bannon-podcast) forgiven? I hope so. Guilt by association is so wrong. I still want Fetterman to resign, but talking to bad people is, by itself, fine. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/136 "2025-06-11T00:26:13Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Guilt by association is so wrong. I still want Fetterman to resign, but talking to bad people is, by itself, fine. That only makes sense if you ignore everything else he’s doing. It’s not “guilt by association”. It’s another piece of evidence to put on the pile. You might as well act like we’re upset that he ate dinner. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/137 "2025-06-13T03:57:06Z")
On a humorous note, Olbermann compares Fetterman to the alien in “To Serve Man” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/138 "2025-06-13T04:44:42Z")
I bet 2 quatloos to 1 that Fetterman will not join the Republican Party within the next 4 years. Swing state positioning doesn’t bother me, nor does supporting, “a controversial law requiring the detention of undocumented immigrants accused of theft, burglary, or shoplifting.” Wake me up when he actually causes problems for the Democratic leadership. I’d give steeper odds, but I don’t know enough about neuroscience. (I do oppose that piece of legislation, but I cut slack to politicians from difficult jurisdictions.) High staff turnover is more troubling. I think he needs to step aside. From filmore’s Inquirer link: > “It’s pretty impossible to overstate how disengaged he is,” [a recently departed staffer told The Inquirer last month.](https://www.inquirer.com/politics/john-fetterman-staff-concerns-voting-record-20250508.html) “He doesn’t read memos, he’s taking very few meetings … the job is just a platform for him to run for president, that’s all he cares about.” Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/139 "2025-06-14T20:26:23Z")
Running for president?! Oh dear, so many delusions… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/140 "2025-06-15T23:39:53Z")
OTOH not reading memos or taking meetings and being kind of disengaged is currently kind of in the ballpark for presidential behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/141 "2025-06-16T16:52:22Z")
Maybe for leading, but getting elected? Fetterman is like Leon: he has pissed off those who were fans but will get no traction with the opposition. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/142 "2025-06-16T20:38:43Z")
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