# John Fetterman really needs to resign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875 "2025-05-04T22:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/143 "2025-06-18T16:02:04Z")
Is Fetterman’s attendance unusually low? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/144 "2025-06-18T17:37:16Z")
This is from February: > **[Who's Showing Up to Vote in the Senate? Not John Fetterman](https://zeteo.com/p/whos-showing-up-to-vote-in-the-senate-not-fetterman)** > > The Pennsylvania senator has skipped more votes than any other lawmaker in the chamber so far this year. > The Senate has held 91 floor votes in the new Congress, and the attendance record is clear: Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania has the worst record, missing 18 votes, eight more than any other senator, according to[GovTrack](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_fetterman/456877), a nonpartisan site that tracks lawmakers’ votes. Going to Govtrack today: > **[Sen. John Fetterman \[D-PA, 2023-2028\], Senator for Pennsylvania - GovTrack.us](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_fetterman/456877)** > > Legislative profile for Sen. John Fetterman \[D-PA\], the Senator from Pennsylvania It says: > From Feb 2023 to Jun 2025, Fetterman missed 174 of 998 roll call votes, which is 17.4%. This is much worse than the median of 2.9% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. That seems to qualify as “unusually low” to me. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/145 "2025-06-18T18:04:41Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That seems to qualify as “unusually low” to me. The real question is, how many of those votes actually mattered? Was anything passed or not passed because he didn’t vote, or has his absence even caused the result to come into question? The vast majority of votes have totals that are already known well in advance, with enough accuracy that the outcome, one way or another, is never in question. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/146 "2025-06-18T18:58:46Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The real question is, how many of those votes actually mattered? That’s not the question I answered. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/147 "2025-06-18T20:13:18Z")
Fair, it’s the question I should have asked. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/148 "2025-06-18T20:14:25Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Babale](#): > > > > The real question is, how many of those votes actually mattered? > > That’s not the question I answered I didn’t say it was. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/149 "2025-06-18T20:17:56Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I didn’t say it was. Then why did you address me rather than the person who asked the question I answered? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/150 "2025-06-18T20:23:01Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > why did you address me rather than the person who asked the question I answered? I just quoted the last post in a back and forth on the topic that involved a number of posters, not just you or @Love_Rhombus. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/151 "2025-06-18T20:24:33Z")
Unless it’s a symbolic or BS unanimous vote like “resolution to declare that ice cream is yummy,” going by what votes “mattered” is bad criteria. Senators should take a stand on issues even if the final tally doesn’t come down to their vote alone. That is how their constituents evaluate if their senator is representing their interests. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/152 "2025-06-18T20:29:54Z")
Is there any idea what he’s doing instead of going to work? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/153 "2025-06-18T20:40:15Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Senators should take a stand on issues even if the final tally doesn’t come down to their vote alone. That is how their constituents evaluate if their senator is representing their interests. I agree in principle, but since very few lawmakers actually behave that way, I’m not going to judge lawmakers that have shitty attendance but otherwise uphold good policy too harshly. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/154 "2025-06-18T20:54:29Z")
Hanging out with far right activists, embracing ICE’s persecution of minorities and violation of the law. In other words, “upholding good policy”. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/155 "2025-06-23T12:25:53Z")
> **[Fetterman Sides With Trump Over Fellow Democrats On Iran](https://www.yahoo.com/news/fetterman-sides-trump-over-fellow-203206482.html)** > > “I really hope the president finally does bomb and destroy the Iranians,” the Pennsylvania senator said. > [@](#): > > Fetterman told Fox News that he would oppose Senator Tim Kaine’s Resolution to Prevent War With Iran, which states that, “It is not in our national security interest to get into a war with Iran unless that war is absolutely necessary to defend the United States.” > > Fetterman responded sharply, “I’m going to vote it down.… I really hope the president finally does bomb and destroy the Iranians,” he said. Hopefully he adds that vote to all the other votes he didn’t show up for ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/156 "2025-06-23T23:46:30Z")
He spends a lot of time talking to Faux News, don’t he? ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/157 "2025-06-27T20:26:07Z")
Hopefully dealing with his fairly serious health problems ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/158 "2025-06-27T20:30:08Z")
It appears that a lot of those missed votes were in early 2023, when he was hospitalized. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/159 "2025-06-27T23:30:46Z")
> **['Derangement syndrome': Here are 5 unhinged moments from Trump’s rambling...](https://www.alternet.org/amp/trump-bondi-press-conference-scotus-2672447007)** > > During a White House press conference with U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi early Friday afternoon, June 27, President Donald Trump discussed a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that limits federal judges' power to halt his executive orders. The ruling is... > [@](#): > > **Trump praised Sen. John Fetterman as his favorite Senate Democrat.** > > Trump, during the presser, angrily railed against Democrats who oppose his “big, beautiful bill.” But he pointed to Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pennsylvania) as the Democrat he considers the most reasonable in the U.S. Senate. And he expressed hopes that Fetterman will vote “yes” on his megabill. Fetterman, however, has expressed his opposition to the bill’s Medicaid cuts. I don’t think Democrats are going to see it as a good thing to be Trump’s favorite Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/160 "2025-07-01T02:36:56Z")
Kind of part of the job, dude. “Oh my God. I just want to go home. I’ve missed our entire trip to the beach,” Fetterman said. “I’m going to vote no.” > **[“I just want to go home”: Fetterman complains that budget vote is wrecking...](https://www.salon.com/2025/06/30/i-just-want-to-go-home-fetterman-complains-that-budget-vote-is-wrecking-his-vacation-plans/)** > > Sen. John Fetterman complained that the delayed vote on the "big, beautiful" bill has ruined his vacation. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/161 "2025-07-01T03:04:39Z")
Totally tone deaf. When stories are circulating that you’re not doing the job, not showing up for the job and not even up for the job, maybe don’t whine to the press about not being able to go to the beach. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875/162 "2025-07-11T07:51:33Z")
This guy sucks and is an idiot. > **[John Fetterman is a Major Disappointment](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/7/10/2332748/-John-Fetterman-is-a-Major-Disappointment?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)** > > John Fetterman announced on X (Twitter) earlier this afternoon that ICE is just peachy and that dragging POC from their homes, cars, businesses, and schools is really swell since “looking like an immigrant” is enough to justify their intent. So... > [@John Fetterman](#): > > ICE performs an important job for our country. > Any calls to abolish ICE are 💯 inappropriate and outrageous. The framing and phrasing here are so MAGA and therefore so dumb my brain hurts bad. So if anyone does anything “important,” they are above criticism? Fucking moron. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-fetterman-really-needs-to-resign/1017875.md?page=9)