# John Huston's drunk orangutan **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 20, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750 "2007-06-20T18:28:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ender\_Will](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Ender\_Will](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ender_Will)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/1 "2007-06-20T18:28:09Z")
A friend was telling me that when he was directing _The African Queen_ [John Huston](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Huston) was given an orangutan. Supposedly this orangutan came with instructions that it was to be given only beer, no liquor at all. Right here my BS-meter started pinging, but it was an amusing story, so I let him continue. After spending the rest of the filming drinking and carousing with the orangutan, Huston heads home, bringing the ape with him. Huston shows up to a party, “drunker than the Lord with this fucking orangutan,” to quote my friend. One thing leads to another and the orangutan bites off one of Huston’s wife’s fingers. That’s the story anyway. Is there any truth to any of this? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/2 "2007-06-20T18:35:08Z")
No idea. Never heard it. But Orangutans do get drunk. Frank Buck tells in one of his books about how some Indonesian(?) natives captured an orang by getting it to drink water from a tub they placed at the base of its tree. After it started accepting the water, they slowly started adding liquor to it, letting the orang get used to its taste. Eventually they filled the tub with liquor. The orang got drunk, couldn’t climb the tree, fell down, and slept. They just boxed it up. on the other hand, after reading Buck’s account of what angry and disoriented orangutans were capable of, I’m pretty certain I wouldn’t want tto be in a room with one. They’re lucky they only lost a finger. Orangutans are STRONG. And they bite. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/3 "2007-06-20T18:36:38Z")
I dunno; Google came up emptry. But Huston _played_ an orangutan in _Battle for the Planet of the Apes_. Does that help? Behold the Lawgiver: [![](http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m5/battle-pota-a.jpg) ](http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m5/battle-pota-a.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/4 "2007-06-20T18:53:27Z")
Sounds way apocryphal. Huston’s wife at the time was the ballerina Ricki Soma, mother of Anjelica. In [this article](http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20060319/ai_n16149477) and others about Anjelica’s childhood her unconventional upbringing and parents are mentioned (Morticia’s childhood would probably have seemed tame: both of her parents had children by other people while they were married to each other, Anjelica was tutored in philosophy by Jean Paul Sartre, a frequent longterm visitor to her father’s Irish castle, her father slept with one of her best friends, etc.) nothing’s mentioned about her ballerina mother missing a finger due to an orangutan and that’s something you probably would bring up. No idea if there’s any connection, but I remember an episode of a new version of the Twilight Zone from the 1980s in which Kim Novak played Huston’s wife and a missing finger was part of the plot. Huston’s character liked to challenge people to light a Zippo 10 times in succession: if they did without a failure he gave them his Rolls Royce, and if they didn’t he got to chop off one of their fingers [and you couldn’t put it on ice and have it reconnected- he took it with him]). The twist ending: The guy-in-the-bar who takes this bet lights the lighter 9 times perfectly and fails on the 10th time. Just as a gleeful Huston’s about to take off his finger his wife, Novak, walks in, gloved, and orders him to stop. She explains to the man that her husband is not only a cruel bastard but he’s broke- the car, the house, the money and everything else is her’s. She tells him it didn’t start out that way but over time she got it all- this is where she takes off her gloves and she’s missing most of her fingers. Huston also played _Grizzly Adams_ in THE LIFE & TIMES OF JUDGE ROY BEAN and, truer to the real Grizzly than the saintly Dan Haggerty incarnation, his Adams got his bear drunk constantly as a bar trick. Again, no idea if there’s a connection to the OP, but… ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/5 "2007-06-20T22:16:09Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] No idea if there’s any connection, but I remember an episode of a new version of the Twilight Zone from the 1980s in which Kim Novak played Huston’s wife and a missing finger was part of the plot. Huston’s character liked to challenge people to light a Zippo 10 times in succession: if they did without a failure he gave them his Rolls Royce, and if they didn’t he got to chop off one of their fingers [and you couldn’t put it on ice and have it reconnected- he took it with him]). The twist ending: The guy-in-the-bar who takes this bet lights the lighter 9 times perfectly and fails on the 10th time. Just as a gleeful Huston’s about to take off his finger his wife, Novak, walks in, gloved, and orders him to stop. She explains to the man that her husband is not only a cruel bastard but he’s broke- the car, the house, the money and everything else is her’s. She tells him it didn’t start out that way but over time she got it all- this is where she takes off her gloves and she’s missing most of her fingers. [/QUOTE] It wasn’t the _TZ_, it was from [Alfred Hitchcock Presents](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088692/) and was itself a remake of a classic episode from the original _AHP_ series, called “Man from the South” and starring Peter Lorre & Steve McQueen. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/6 "2007-06-20T23:11:22Z")
And “Man From the South” was originally a short story by Roald Dahl. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/7 "2007-06-21T00:20:03Z")
[QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried] And “Man From the South” was originally a short story by Roald Dahl. [/QUOTE] And Roald Dahl was descended from apes, and a type of ape is an orangutan. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/8 "2007-06-21T03:51:14Z")
Is no one going to mention Quentin Tarantino’s reprise of this story in _Four Rooms_? Guess it’s up to me, then. > [@wikipedia](#): > > Near the end of the night, Ted [the bellhop] is called to the penthouse, which is currently being occupied by the famous director Chester Rush and his friends. Ted is asked to deliver a block of wood, a doughnut, a ball of twine, three nails, a club sandwich, a bucket of ice and a hatchet (“as sharp as the devil himself”). After getting acquainted, Chester offers to give Ted $100 if he is willing to at least listen to a proposed challenge between Chester and a friend. The challenge is that Chester’s friend can light his Zippo cigarette lighter ten times in a row (without fail). If he succeeds, he wins Chester’s car, but if he fails, he loses his pinky finger. The twisted game is inspired by a 1960 Alfred Hitchcock episode, “The Man from Rio.” The Hitchcock episode is derived from, “Man from the South”, by Roald Dahl. Ted is initially reluctant to participate, but he is eventually convinced to take the role of an impartial “hatchet man” when Chester is ups the reward by $1000. In the end, Chester’s friend fails on the first try, and the movie ends with the credits rolling as we see the frantic rush of Chester and company running to get the friend to a Hospital as Ted calmly walks out of the room with his money. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/9 "2007-06-21T05:47:34Z")
[QUOTE=Ender\_Will] A friend was telling me that when he was directing _The African Queen_ [John Huston](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Huston) was given an orangutan. \ Is there any truth to any of this? [/QUOTE] Orangutans come from Indonesia. \*The African Queen \*was filmed in … Africa. I’m going to go with “no” as the answer to your question. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/10 "2007-06-21T05:55:27Z")
[QUOTE=Askance] Orangutans come from Indonesia. \*The African Queen \*was filmed in … Africa. I’m going to go with “no” as the answer to your question. [/QUOTE] I wonder if there is any way that an orangutan could possible be taken to Africa? I think I have seen one here in the United States, so I guess it might be possible to have orangutans in Africa, too. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/11 "2007-06-21T07:26:02Z")
[QUOTE=I Love Me, Vol. I] I wonder if there is any way that an orangutan could possible be taken to Africa? I think I have seen one here in the United States, so I guess it might be possible to have orangutans in Africa, too. [/QUOTE] Very possibly you just had an encounter with singer/songwriter/actor [Paul Williams](http://www.snarkymalarkey.com/williams_paul2.jpg). It’s a fairly frequent mistake. The difference is that one throws feces at you and the other is from Indonesia. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-hustons-drunk-orangutan/408750/12 "2007-06-21T12:01:15Z")
> [@](#): > > And Roald Dahl was descended from apes, and a type of ape is an orangutan. And an orangutan was in **Every Which Way but Loose** with Clint Eastwood And Clint Eastwood was in **City Heat** with Beau Starr And Beau Starr was in **Where the Truth Lies** with Kevin Bacon.