I suppose it isn’t so much that the horse is grinning, but what the horse is grinning about. Let us draw a veil of discretion over that, and let the matter lie. You need have no concern about my graces, good, bad, or otherwise. I never hold a grudge. This is more a matter of short-term memory issues than refined character, but the end result is the same.
Ancient joke omitted, punch line only.
“Sure, sure, sheep talk. Everybody knows sheep can talk. But they lie!”
You forgot to add that ‘Pubbies’ also made Al Gore to endorse Dean.
I’m sorry, what? No, seriously, what in hell are you attempting (oh so vainly) to say here? Because it looks to me as if you’ve made some weird, half-assed attempt at being snarky, and failed.
Proving once again that you should leave any smart-assedness to the pros.
Or learn to express your thoughts in a more or less cogent manner.
Al Gore also chose Lieberman as his running mate. If that doesn’t tell you the man’s not perfect, I’m not sure what would.
You don’t have to tell me that Al is not a perfect man; I know that full well, believe you me. However, by the time this election is over you are going to pine for Al big time, and Joe too.
Come to think of it, Gephardt/Lieberman would really make Bush/Cheney sweat.
Just a wild guess, but maybe the Democrats were revolted at the thought of trying to win an election by smearing the military service of a genuine war hero?
Nope.
" President Bush said on Thursday that he did not believe Senator John Kerry lied about his war record, but he declined to condemn the television commercial paid for by a veterans group alleging that Mr. Kerry came by his war medals dishonestly…"
But for real amusement…
"…“I understand how Senator Kerry feels - I’ve been attacked by 527’s too,’’ he said…”
Pobrecito!
But the height of drollery is yet to come!
"…But he insisted that the 17-month-long insurgency that has upended the administration’s plans for the country was the unintended by-product of a “swift victory’’ against Saddam Hussein’s military…”
Got that? Not poor planning, not ham-fisted stupidity, or not having the merest fucking clue…
Its because we did too good a job defeating Hussein!
(If you have read this far, and are willing to believe a word this man says, ever again, as long as you live, please tell me why. I’ll admit it, its really morbid curiousity, but I’m dying to know…)
Shayna, many threads and newspaper articles have pointed out the inflated language of Navy officer fitness reports.
I could reprint the comment section of my Navy evaluations here, and I’m sure you’d be ready to elect me Emperor, by these standards.
This is not to take anything away from John Kerry, as I have great respect for his heroism under fire. But you probably don’t realize that a couple of those fitreps you reprinted were mediocre ones.
I also have to ask, Shayna, what brings you to vote you to vote for Kerry today after voting for Dole in 1996 and Bush I in 1992. These war heroes are, after all, very different regarding their approach to the issues.
I am correct in assuming you voted for the war heroes in those particular elections, aren’t I? Considering the value you apparantly place in military service.
In case the disgusting hypocricy hasn’t yet registered for you, Bush’s “original position” in no way resembled a ban on issue ads. To that point, I draw the interested reader’s attention to Bush’s March 15, 2001 formal position statement on campaign finance reform, which clearly states that Dear Leader strongly supports issue ads and the organizations that produce them:
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President Bush believes democracy is first and foremost about the rights of individuals to express their views. He supports strengthening the role of individuals in the political process by: 1) updating the limits established more than two decades ago on individual giving to candidates and national parties; and 2) protecting the rights of citizen groups to engage in issue advocacy.
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But his current one doesn’t either. ? How is that hypocrasy? ?
The hell it doesn’t. Bush’s position–adopted only when called upon to denounce the lies of his “independent” hatched men, which he couldn’t bring himself to do because he’s a disgusting piece of shit who likes it when his boys play dirty for him–is that 527s (you know, the groups that produce independent issue ads) are all the same and should all be banned.
Moderator’s Note: Looks like I missed this one the first time around.
Elucidator, cool it with the ad hominem attacks in Great Debates, got it?
Zoe, as long as your signature is the following:
then every single post you have ever made where you checked the “Show your signature” box includes an ad hominem attack on another poster, no matter what forum you’re in. Got it?
Didn’t Brutus drag this particular dog out earlier in this very thread? I know we saw it sometime in the past month.
Anyway, faulty logic from a conservative? Who’da thunk it.
Really? I thought he simply said he is against some of their tactics, and is looking into legal actions against some of them. Perhaps I have misread?
Point taken, albeit grudgingly. I’ll try to be good.
'Fraid so.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/23/swift.boat/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/24/fear.smear/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/23/bush.kerry/index.html
Want any more?
Yes, because it seems to me he is talking about all of the attack ads by the 527s. Can you find me a quote in which Bush (or his aides) says that he wants to ban all advertising by any 527 anywhere? Not just the attack ads, and not the parphrasing of some reporter?
Although it does seem that he has changed his position on 527s. This is from May.
Apperently he understood the law to be that 527 were subject to some form of campaign financing regulations if they spent more than $1,000 trying to elect specific federal candidates. They are not, apparently.
It seems to me that Bush is talking about making the 527 play by the same rules as PACs. That is closing a loophole in the current campaign financing laws. I can’t seem to locate anything which proves that he wants to ban them anymore than I can find anything suggesting he wants to ban the Democratic party.
Your help is most appreciated.
I said a flip-flop to the flippity flippity flop and you don’t stop …