# John Kerry NOT 1) charged with DUI, 2) anti-gay bigot, 3) flip-flopper!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398 "2004-09-28T01:45:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/1 "2004-09-28T01:45:18Z")

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Goddamn Fuckers. Learned well from Fox News, didn’t you?

Fuckers.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/2 "2004-09-28T01:53:20Z")

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I think the dishonest get their jollies from causing angst and disseminating bullshit. I wish more often than not that we’d all cease giving them and their sad entreaties any attention.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/3 "2004-09-28T01:53:22Z")

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Why oh why do the Democrats/liberals keep posting in those threads? We’re doing their work for them.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/4 "2004-09-28T01:57:01Z")

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Governor Quinn:

1. Is F!@#ing sick and tired of these threads,
2. Can’t wait until the general election,  
and
3. Wishes a pox on both your houses!

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/5 "2004-09-28T02:10:28Z")

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> [@Governor Quinn](#):
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> Governor Quinn:
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> 1. Is F!@#ing sick and tired of these threads,
> 2. Can’t wait until the general election,  
> and
> 3. Wishes a pox on both your houses!

1. Too bad. This is the most important election ever. Our country is being taken over by a bunch of fascist-wannbes and they need to be KICKED OUT before they cause any more damage. The people in the country are brainwashed by FOX and CNN and the other conservative-biased media, and they need to be woken up.

This web site/message board, last I looked, was supposed to be about fighting ignorance. When obviously misleading/lying Subject Lines are prominent, that’s a problem.

1. Me too.

2. Fuck off. I care about my country.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/6 "2004-09-28T02:13:19Z")

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You really are trying hard to prove your ‘retard credentials’, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/7 "2004-09-28T02:16:43Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> 1. Too bad. This is the most important election ever. Our country is being taken over by a bunch of fascist-wannbes and they need to be KICKED OUT before they cause any more damage. The people in the country are brainwashed by FOX and CNN and the other conservative-biased media, and they need to be woken up.
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> This web site/message board, last I looked, was supposed to be about fighting ignorance. When obviously misleading/lying Subject Lines are prominent, that’s a problem.
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> 1. Me too.
> 
> 2. Fuck off. I care about my country.

1. How cute, someone with no sense of balance or history.

2. No comment.

3. Not being amused at the string of overheated (by both sides) political threads means I don’t care about my country?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/8 "2004-09-28T02:18:12Z")

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C’mon, let’s give **danceswithcats** the benefit of the doubt that it was meant as a joke. There was even a winking smiley at the end of the post.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/9 "2004-09-28T02:19:31Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> When obviously misleading/lying Subject Lines are prominent, that’s a problem.

Prominent? Define prominent, then back it up with evidence that such things are prominent here.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/10 "2004-09-28T02:20:23Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> C’mon, let’s give **danceswithcats** the benefit of the doubt that it was meant as a joke. There was even a winking smiley at the end of the post.

Well, if danceswithcats doesn’t realize how such bullshit Subject Lines plays into right-wingers’ hands, it’s about time they learned.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/11 "2004-09-28T02:21:31Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> Prominent? Define prominent, then back it up with evidence that such things are prominent here.

Uh, on Page One at the top?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/12 "2004-09-28T02:26:52Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Well, if danceswithcats doesn’t realize how such bullshit Subject Lines plays into right-wingers’ hands, it’s about time they learned.

So, you think it would have been difficult to point out it was different Kerry? That if it were a serious attempt at an attack on Kerry, that it wouldn’t have damaged the attacker much more that the person attacked?

IMO, you might be taking this a bit more seriously than you should.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/13 "2004-09-28T02:29:31Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> John Kerry NOT 1) charged with DUI, 2) anti-gay bigot, 3) flip-flopper!

He is, however, a haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat who by the way served in Vietnam.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/14 "2004-09-28T02:30:14Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Uh, on Page One at the top?

That’s a grossly inadequate definition, but for the sake of fighting ignorance - you know, the thing you claim you’re doing - let’s assume you meant **stpauler** ’s thread as well as **DWC** ’s.

Anyone who is going to read only the title of a thread and automatically believe it is so gullible as to be almost not worth the effort to educate (since anyone else can "re-educate). Anyone who isn’t going to bother to check the link is almost as bad off.

**stpauler** ’s is typical partisan screed; I’d expect similarly accurate thread titles from **Reeder** or, back in the day, **december**.

My advice to you is to rid yourself of this grand paranoia you have before you completely lose your mind;)

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/15 "2004-09-28T02:34:29Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> **stpauler** ’s is typical partisan screed; I’d expect similarly accurate thread titles from **Reeder** or, back in the day, **december**.

And what side of the partisan are you assuming I’m on?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/16 "2004-09-28T02:38:35Z")

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> [@manhattan](#):
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> … who by the way served in Vietnam.

He did? Did he happen to earn any medals during his service?

**stpauler** , the title of your thread indicates bias in favor of Republicans. I make no assumptions about any other thread you’d start; my citing of **Reeder** et al. was meant merely to indicate that it came at things from a POV less open to debate than some others;)

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/17 "2004-09-28T02:45:41Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> **stpauler** , the title of your thread indicates bias in favor of Republicans. I make no assumptions about any other thread you’d start; my citing of **Reeder** et al. was meant merely to indicate that it came at things from a POV less open to debate than some others;)

Well, FTR, I’m a libertarian-leaning democrat. I even mentioned that I’m voting for Kerry for a number of other of his democratic based issues besides his record on gay marriage. It’s sad that the SDMB have gotten to the point where republicans and democrats are having a hard time criticizing their own parties without fighting to do it. **Airman Doorsl, USAF** had to specifically create a thread in the pit to say that [he’s not voting for Bush.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=275438)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/18 "2004-09-28T02:47:35Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> You really are trying hard to prove your ‘retard credentials’, aren’t you?

**Brutus** , is that the only word you know? Did you have a stroke or something, is that the reason why lately everyone seems to be a “retard” to you?

You might wanna get that tic checked out.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/19 "2004-09-28T02:49:01Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> **Brutus** , is that the only word you know? Did you have a stroke or something, is that the reason why lately everyone seems to be a “retard” to you?
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> You might wanna get that tic checked out.

SSSSSSSHHHHH!

We replaced his monitor with a mirror;)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2004, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-kerry-not-1-charged-with-dui-2-anti-gay-bigot-3-flip-flopper/266398/20 "2004-09-28T03:05:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Why oh why do the Democrats/liberals keep posting in those threads? We’re doing their work for them.

Jumpin’ Jehosephat, you need to calm the fuck down. The most popular thread ever generated on this board has what, maybe thwenty thousand views? I’m guessing the chances of any one thing said on this board swinging the election one way or another are somewhere down at the end of this string of zeroes:

.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

Right, there it is. See?

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