He also seems to be a bit stupid, insulting Snowden to try to get him to listen. Unless that’s the point.
Even those most in opposition to Snowden must admit that it’s in his own best interest not to come back to the US and “face” what he did. Acting in your own best interest does not make you a coward.
Um… yes, actually, often it does. Merriam Webster provides this sentence in defining the word:
The soldiers who ran as soon as the first shots were fired were branded as cowards.
Running was probably in their own best interest – they avoid the chance of being shot. Cowardice is succumbing to fear and failing thereby to do what is right or expected.
Reasonable people can certainly disagree about Snowden’s case, of course. But your defense is misplaced: certainly Snowden is acting is his own best interest, but that does not absolve him of the charge of cowardice.
Huh. I managed to disgrace myself a lot more when I was a young man.
But I did manage to disgrace myself in the shower this morning.
Abusing yourself is not necessarily disgracing yourself. Sometimes that monkey deserves a good spanking.
It is the way I do it.
Nitpick: it’s “Vietnam”.
The story of John Kerry’s career: From swift boat to swiftboatee to swiftboater.
Nitpick: according to the Official Names of the United Nations Membership it’s the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam
His willingness to give up his life and family ties (even temporarily) to combat what he perceives as illegal government activity certainly does - even if you disagree with his methods, as I do.
More to the point, the fact that he didn’t even attempt the obvious alternative of leaking the stuff anonymously refutes any charge of cowardice.
He’s not trying to get him to listen. Since the beginning the administration has tried to belittle the guy to make themselves look tougher. It’s stupid and it’s really not working.
Come back to Mother Russia ! You Who Fled, and We Who Stayed both made mistakes. But the Revolution is bigger than all of us petty folk, and the Revolution Forgives. A formality of a trial, and then proper places will be provided for you in the land you love, forwarding our ineluctable Destiny !
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Apparently, you can polish a turd.
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I hope this doesn’t refer to Trion’s habits. :eek:
Didn’t Snowden reveal the United States foreign spying programs? Is not considered treasonous or betraying the country?
If we have an American citizen working as a spy in foreign country, gathering intelligence secretly, and he or she suddenly decides to reveal we’re doing in that regard, wouldn’t they be considered a traitor?
The problem with this distinction is that the government has intertwined foreign and domestic programs, making arrangements with other countries (e.g. “Five Eyes”) so that (for example) the US snoops can spy on British citizens and vice versa and trade information, thus evading domestic restrictions (such as they are).
If you have a little time here, read this reporter sticking it to a White House spokeswoman over Kerry’s comments.
Yes, but it’s better than being a disgrace to the old man you’ll become.
Well, there you are, Cheney wouldn’t do that! He likes his meat plain, raw, and live!