# John Mace, just Pit him already!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 29, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392 "2007-08-29T18:32:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/21 "2007-08-29T23:03:00Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Uh-oh, he’s going to DefCon 15! This could escalate into a spat.  
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Maybe even a tiff!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/22 "2007-08-29T23:07:42Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
I have no problem at all with **BG** posts. He scours the web looking for the latest atrocities. _And these are atrocities!_ They’re no blow jobs and “I did not have sex with that woman.” These involve thousands of American lives, and 100’s of thousands of Iraqi lives, and the administration wiping their ass with the constitution.

I haven’t seen the GD snipes, but if **John Mace** has a problem with **BG** ’s posts, maybe John should like _change_ the Pub party. Or offer a factual rebuttal. Or open his fucking eyes. Instead of spouting that days talking points. You know, put up or shut up.

This crap isn’t working and the Dems and the vast majority of the people see that.  
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With all due respect, you’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/23 "2007-08-29T23:13:58Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
With all due respect, you’re an idiot.  
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I don’t know you from Adam. Except that you’re a mod. Have never noticed any of you posts.

But I’ve noticed Brian’s. And inevitably, his posts result in bringing out all the Pub apologists, harping on some miniscule debate point, instead of the original issue.

Have you done anything to stop this? Or do you just sit back and let the mouths speak for you?

Nice insightful post, btw. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/24 "2007-08-29T23:16:02Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
I don’t know you from Adam. Except that you’re a mod.  
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Nope.

> [@](#):
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> Have never noticed any of you posts.
> 
> But I’ve noticed Brian’s. And inevitably, his posts result in bringing out all the Pub apologists, harping on some miniscule debate point, instead of the original issue.
> 
> Have you done anything to stop this? Or do you just sit back and let the mouths speak for you?
> 
> Nice insightful post, btw. :dubious:

You should read the thread and understand what it’s about. Your earlier post had nothing to do with what’s being discussed here.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/25 "2007-08-29T23:16:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackmannii]  
Wouldn’t that be a “snippier snipe”?

And presumably such a retort would be doled out by a snipy snip, though I have no firm opinion on the subject at this time.  
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please repost when you have a firm opinion. 😉

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/26 "2007-08-29T23:17:41Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
Maybe even a tiff!  
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You’re getting a little ahead of yourself. Remember:

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DEFCON 15: contretemps  
DEFCON 14: spat  
DEFCON 13: quarrel

THEN

DEFCON 12: tiff  
DEFCON 11: row  
DEFCON 10: squabble  
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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/27 "2007-08-29T23:21:52Z")

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Okay that’s it I’m writing a country song called “Defcon 16: You keep the cat, I get the car.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/28 "2007-08-29T23:22:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.

- Senator Fred Thompson

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/29 "2007-08-29T23:23:04Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Nope.  
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My bad there. Thought you were a mod.

> [@](#):
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> Congress needs to end the war. They need to revoke the AUMF, and get us out of there. Unless they don that, they pretty much have to give Bush (the Commander in Chief) what he needs. If they don’t, it’s the men and women fighting over there who will suffer.

So you reason that Congress is at fault. Bush started it, continued it, ad nauseum, but it is Congress’ fault for not stopping it. Elsewise they should suck dick and give Bush what he wants.

That’s a position…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/30 "2007-08-29T23:24:21Z")

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[QUOTE=An Gadai]  
Okay that’s it I’m writing a country song called “Defcon 16: You keep the cat, I get the car.”  
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_Oh, I got the truck, she keeps the pussy  
I got the better part of that deal…_

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/31 "2007-08-29T23:25:22Z")

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The Dem congress that has been in less than a year is at fault. Not the Pub congress that enabled this crap for 6 years.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/32 "2007-08-29T23:27:13Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
So you reason that Congress is at fault. Bush started it, continued it, ad nauseum, but it is Congress’ fault for not stopping it. Elsewise they should suck dick and give Bush what he wants.

That’s a position…  
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Dude, put the bong down and read this thread. You are making no sense.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/33 "2007-08-29T23:27:59Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
I have no problem at all with **BG** posts. He scours the web looking for the latest atrocities. _And these are atrocities!_ They’re no blow jobs and “I did not have sex with that woman.” These involve thousands of American lives, and 100’s of thousands of Iraqi lives, and the administration wiping their ass with the constitution.

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Oh my God you’re right! Won’t somebody please think of the children! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/34 "2007-08-29T23:29:06Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
I don’t know you from Adam. Except that you’re a mod. Have never noticed any of you posts.

But I’ve noticed Brian’s. And inevitably, his posts result in bringing out all the Pub apologists, harping on some miniscule debate point, instead of the original issue.

Have you done anything to stop this? Or do you just sit back and let the mouths speak for you?

Nice insightful post, btw. :dubious:  
[/QUOTE]

With all due and all that…I think you mean well, but going off-topic for a bit, what exact type of weed are you smoking and where can I can get some?

Much obliged.

Carry on…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/35 "2007-08-29T23:31:42Z")

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Jimson

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/36 "2007-08-29T23:32:37Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
The Dem congress that has been in less than a year is at fault. Not the Pub congress that enabled this crap for 6 years.  
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Well, **John** called it. You’re an idiot. He wasn’t playing the blame game, just stating a fact. If the congress is too chicken shit to actually take away George’s war powers, cutting the funding is fucking over the troops.

And just to re-iterate: I did not just say Republicans good, Dems bad. Read it again if you don’t believe me.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/37 "2007-08-29T23:34:38Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Dude, put the bong down and read this thread. You are making no sense.  
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Again! Platitudes. Are you going to offer any substance? Or just continue to take pot shots? Talking points.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/38 "2007-08-29T23:35:43Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
With all due and all that…I think you mean well, but going off-topic for a bit, what exact type of weed are you smoking and where can I can get some?

Much obliged.

Carry on…  
[/QUOTE]

Fuck you too. I don’t smoke weed.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/39 "2007-08-29T23:41:17Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Jimson  
[/QUOTE]

Gracias. But old-timer that I am, does that have anything to do with _Loco-weed_? Tried some in Boca years ago, and I’d rather not repeat the experience, if that’s all right by you. Scariest pot ever.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mace-just-pit-him-already/417392/40 "2007-08-29T23:42:50Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
Well, **John** called it. You’re an idiot. He wasn’t playing the blame game, just stating a fact. If the congress is too chicken shit to actually take away George’s war powers, cutting the funding is fucking over the troops.

And just to re-iterate: I did not just say Republicans good, Dems bad. Read it again if you don’t believe me.  
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How the fuck am I an idiot?

To look at this thread like a GD thread…  
Is proposed that **John Mace** should just Pit **BG**. Someone thinks JM is pussyfooting around in GD and should just let loose and Pit him.

I like **BG**. Agree with him 90% of the time.

Granted, I’m stretching, looking at this thread as a free invitation for JM to wail on BG. So I quickly sided with BG. I don’t know JM, so I take the OP’s word that he has a problem with BG.

You have a problem with BG, then you have a problem with me. Simple as that.

And all I get in response is “lay off the bong, dude.”

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