# John McCain says he's not a Maverick, never was one

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 5, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072 "2010-04-05T20:01:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/61 "2010-04-06T20:15:37Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So…he’s the Messiah?

Does this mean his quack doesn’t echo?

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/62 "2010-04-06T22:30:31Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Nonono, y’all misunderstand, he’s saying he isn’t Maverick. No “a”. He never buzzed no tower, **and he didn’t fuck a young Kelly McGillis to the maudlin bars of _Take My Breath Away_.** That was Tom Cruise, not him.

Actually, he is willing to cop to this part…

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/63 "2010-04-06T22:42:45Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But now he’s saying he never was a maverick, which is also false. Prior to the last election, he was considered a fairly liberal Republican.

Prior to the 2000 primary, maybe.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/64 "2010-04-07T01:42:08Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Making me a “re-birther”

Hey, if I’m a Born-Again Liberal, can I join the “Re-Birthers”? When’s the next rally? Do you have signs, or do I need to paint my own?

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/65 "2010-04-07T03:21:45Z")

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Clearly, this is good news for the McCain campaign.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/66 "2010-04-08T17:19:36Z")

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[Salon has a piece](http://www.salon.com/news/john_mccain/index.html?story=/news/feature/2010/04/08/mccain_never_maverick_sore_loser) that basically argues that McCain’s maverick reputation comes from his history of being a dick-in-the-butter when he gets beaten in an election. When he got beaten by Bush in 2000, he made a policy of pissing on everything Bush did. But then he had to tack hard to the right to get the support of the base by 2008, and of course having lost the last election, for which he sacrificed every iota of his reputation for having courage, character, good sense, ect, and completely discredited in the eyes even the party he represented in the last election, there’s nothing left in his political life but to cock block anything Obama might try to accomplish.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/67 "2010-04-08T18:11:49Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Meh. It’s not that big a deal - it’s not like we’re Mirandizing terrorism suspects now.

Both Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Richard Reid were Mirandized after being taken into custody. I can’t tell if you’re being coy or something but McCain’s bill is in response to Mirandizing Abdulmutallab, as Republicans have tried to turn the near-terrorist attack into a partisan political issue any chance they can.

When confronted with the reality that under the Bush administration, Reid was Mirandized 4 times in 2 days including 5 minutes after being taken into custody, Republicans dropped their objections and apologized for being hypocritical douche bags. No, I’m just kidding. They introduced this bill.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/68 "2010-04-08T18:18:25Z")

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I was referring more to battlefield captures, since there really aren’t very many suspects being arrested by civilian law enforcement personnel.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-says-hes-not-a-maverick-never-was-one/535072/69 "2010-04-08T18:21:04Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Isn’t a maverick a freaking COW, anyway?

> [@DanBlather](#):
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> No, it’s the cow’s running mate.

[Moo!](http://www.palinaspresident.us/)

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