# John McCain to resign on 4th of July

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 2, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132 "2018-07-02T02:36:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
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> **[John McCain To Resign Senate Seat on the 4th of July, Says Aide. Cindy McCain...](https://www.smobserved.com/story/2018/07/01/news/john-mccain-to-resign-senate-seat-on-the-4th-of-july-says-aide-cindy-mccain-offered-his-seat/3517.html)**
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> Senator John McCain will resign his US Senate seat on July 4, 2018, says an aide who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak to the press. "In the end, it was about Kennedy resigning from the Supreme Court," said the aide....

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> Senator John McCain will resign his US Senate seat on July 4, 2018, says an aide who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak to the press.
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> “In the end, it was about Kennedy resigning from the Supreme Court,” said the aide. “Confirming a (SCOTUS) replacement before the election is considered in the interest of the national Republican party, so that it doesn’t become an issue for Dems to run on in every race,” said the aide, meaning every race for Senate or Congress. …

I suspect this boosts President Trump’s chances of getting Kennedy’s replacement through the Senate.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/2 "2018-07-02T02:45:59Z")

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The bigger issue is Republican Susan Collins refusal to vote for any candidate hostile to Roe vs Wade.

> **[Republican Sen. Susan Collins would oppose Supreme Court pick with Roe v Wade...](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/01/susan-collins-roe-v-wade-supreme-court/)**
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> Republican Sen. Susan Collins, a key vote on President Donald Trump’s pick for the Supreme Court, said Sunday she would oppose any nominee she believed would overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade…

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“Confirming a (SCOTUS) replacement before the election is considered in the interest of the national Republican party, so that it doesn’t become an issue for Dems to run on in every race,”

Uh, confirming what will be a Torquemada light judge before the election does not lead that item to be forgotten when the election comes. Seems to be the same mentality as the politicians had about the court giving the Dred Scott decision. It is like President Buchanan thinking that ‘now that will settle the issue of slavery once and for all’… It did not work as he and others wanted.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/4 "2018-07-02T03:32:05Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> The bigger issue is Republican Susan Collins refusal to vote for any candidate hostile to Roe vs Wade.  
> [Republican Sen. Susan Collins would oppose Supreme Court pick with Roe v Wade “hostility” – The Denver Post](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/01/susan-collins-roe-v-wade-supreme-court/)

Yes, that’s an issue, but up until now, McConnel has faced that issue as well as a Senator McCain that was too ill to vote. Now they’ll be able to strike that latter issue from their list of concerns.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/5 "2018-07-02T03:35:21Z")

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What’s the practice in Arizona with replacing Senators?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/6 "2018-07-02T03:47:18Z")

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God speed, sir.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/7 "2018-07-02T04:03:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> What’s the practice in Arizona with replacing Senators?

I’ve read that since he made it past some June deadline the governor can pick his replacement. I’m admittedly fuzzy on the details.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> What’s the practice in Arizona with replacing Senators?

McCain is a true Republican to the end.

Had he resigned prior to May 30th, his seat would have gone to election.

Since he resigned post May 30th, his seat will be replaced by a gubernatorial appointment – a Republican appointing another Republican.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/9 "2018-07-02T04:12:26Z")

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/10 "2018-07-02T06:47:13Z")

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No one else seems to be carrying this news. Not on AP or Google.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/11 "2018-07-02T06:51:30Z")

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Why would a random local pennysaver in California be the only outlet with this news?

> [@PastTense](#):
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> The bigger issue is Republican Susan Collins refusal to vote for any candidate hostile to Roe vs Wade.  
> [Republican Sen. Susan Collins would oppose Supreme Court pick with Roe v Wade “hostility” – The Denver Post](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/01/susan-collins-roe-v-wade-supreme-court/)

Only one who says so explicitly. She’s expressed a willingness to participate in the kabuki dance where the nominee pretends to have never heard of the issue.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/12 "2018-07-02T07:11:03Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Why would a random local pennysaver in California be the only outlet with this news?

Take heart, they might be wrong. I have no idea how they developed their source.

> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Only one who says so explicitly. She’s expressed a willingness to participate in the kabuki dance where the nominee pretends to have never heard of the issue.

We could call it [the Ginsburg Standard](https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/ginsburg-standard/).

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/13 "2018-07-02T13:32:51Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> The bigger issue is Republican Susan Collins refusal to vote for any candidate hostile to Roe vs Wade.  
> [Republican Sen. Susan Collins would oppose Supreme Court pick with Roe v Wade “hostility” – The Denver Post](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/01/susan-collins-roe-v-wade-supreme-court/)

Not so big, I don’t think. She voted to confirm Gorsuch and she voted for the nuclear option to allow Republicans to confirm him with a simple majority. SCOUTS nominees are well aware of the fact that they have to non-answer the question about _Roe_.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_lining](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Silver\_lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_lining)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/14 "2018-07-02T13:33:03Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> “Confirming a (SCOTUS) replacement before the election is considered in the interest of the national Republican party, so that it doesn’t become an issue for Dems to run on in every race,”
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> Uh, confirming what will be a Torquemada light judge before the election does not lead that item to be forgotten when the election comes. Seems to be the same mentality as the politicians had about the court giving the Dred Scott decision. It is like President Buchanan thinking that ‘now that will settle the issue of slavery once and for all’… It did not work as he and others wanted.

Didn’t Obama, who has beenout of the limelight since he left, say elections have consequences?

Congress is broken. Getting a new Supreme court justice approved might come down to which party has the majority inthe Senatethese days.

If this is the new normal, you can expect either party to force a vote before elections. Get used to it. I do not expect more than 3 democratic senators to vote for whomever Trump nominates.

The roof will be raised once Ginsberg ( 86 in August ) or Breyer ( 80 this summer ) vacate their spot, either through natural cases or retirement.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/15 "2018-07-02T13:34:19Z")

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Longtime McCain aide Mark Salter was on TV this weekend and didn’t mention any resignation date.

> **[Sen. John McCain in physical therapy, former staffer says](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2018/07/01/sen-john-mccain-physical-therapy-former-staffer-mark-salter-says/749657002/)**
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> During an appearance on CBS's "Face the Nation", Mark Salter said Sen. McCain was doing physical therapy while battling a deadly brain cancer.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **Silver Lining** :
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> Congress is broken.

Very good. And who broke it?

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… and is keeping it broken?

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> Didn’t Obama, who has beenout of the limelight since he left, say elections have consequences?

Pretty sure that was Justice Garland.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Very good. And who broke it?

I blame Harry Reid.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-mccain-to-resign-on-4th-of-july/817132/20 "2018-07-02T14:28:29Z")

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Based on what - his demand that Obama be a one-term President?

I think you need to go back to [Gingrich](http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm) for the origins, and the endless Get Bill Clinton For Something Hearings for it to come into full flower.

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