# John Oliver on Mike Pence (YouTube video) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 19, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834 "2018-03-19T17:14:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/21 "2018-03-20T16:27:36Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I could never go on TV and be such an evasive fraud, defending the indefensible statements of someone like Trump. Watching him refuse to answer questions was embarrassing. I don’t know how anyone can live with themselves at night. Jesus Is With Him; therefore, all lies are for the Greater Glory of God and All Will Be Forgiven At The Pearly Gates. If you don’t know many evangelicals you may not be aware, but this is a common mentality among fundamentalist Christians (former Attorney General John Ashcroft being a notable example); it is fine to be shitty and non-Christian to people as long as they aren’t God’s People. They’re not going to be Raptured bodily to Heaven and spend Eternity with you so they don’t matter, especially the \*\*\*\*\*s, \*\*\*s, \*\*\*\*\*\*s, \*\*\*\*\*s, \*\*\*\*s, and \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*s. Rapture Heaven is all pound cake and church basement bingo, all the time! Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/22 "2018-03-20T16:28:15Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Where is the rabbit in the line of succession? He wasn’t born in the U.S. so it hops over him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/23 "2018-03-20T16:35:45Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > The idea that the Vice President of the United States is going to get his feelings hurt because some kids book outsells his daughter’s kids book is crazy. Good on Oliver to find a clever way to sell books and raise money for charity but the credulity of some people is amazing. If his true views about gay people are as hateful as his rhetoric, then he’d be pissed off by anything that helps gay people and portrays them in a positive light. But I don’t know if Pence is truly hateful, or just says very hateful things about gay people because he thinks it helps him politically. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/24 "2018-03-20T19:05:24Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Rapture Heaven is all pound cake and church basement bingo, all the time! I’ve mentioned this before but you forgot the ringside seats so they can look down on the rest of us burning in hell forever and laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/25 "2018-03-20T20:07:21Z")
Has anyone read either book? Are either of them any good? Are they suitable for children? (I loved Go the F\*\*k to Sleep, but would not recommend it for children.) Does Amazon have a + offer for buying both books together? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/26 "2018-03-20T20:53:47Z")
I bought the John Oliver book, but it’s on backorder so I didn’t get it right away. I got the audio book from Audible for $2 and it was cute. Suitable for children, yes. It’s not an adult book masquerading as a kids book like that “Go the fuck to sleep” book was. It’s a legit kids book about two boy bunnies falling in love, their desire to be married, an angry stink bug who says “no”, celebrating differences and weirdness, voting out the angry stink bug, and having a gay bunny wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/27 "2018-03-20T21:06:41Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Does Amazon have a + offer for buying both books together? The combination options are _A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership_ by James Comey Hardcover and _Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump_ by Michael Isikoff. I fear the Isikoff tome might be a snoozer for kids but the Comey book should be a laugh riot. Regardless, _A Day in the Life of Marlon Bundo_ is an actual childrens book, suitable formanyone who isn’t planning to go to Fundie Christian Hypocrite Heaven with Pence and his bevy of apologists for the racist, philandering, cheating, lying, slandering, self-admitted serial sexual assaulter Donald Trump. The [one star reviews](https://www.amazon.com/Tonight-Oliver-Presents-Marlon-Bundo/product-reviews/145217380X/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar) are a riot! (They’re largely, if not all, satirical criticisms of the book.) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/28 "2018-03-20T21:10:55Z")
> [@XT](#): > > John Oliver on Mike Pence (YouTube video) > > Anyway, if you haven’t seen it let me know what you think in the thread. (post shortened) John Oliver is your usual entertainer-type who is paid to play the part of another angry man on a talkshow. His bitterness and frustration over the fact that more people refuse to think like him, is obvious in most of his tirade videos. Some people like angry-man humor. I consider Oliver to be a political hack who fulfills his employers biased expectations. Neither entertaining, or humorous. Just angry. Yawn. Should people buy books? People should buy as many books as they can afford. Should people buy books based on an angry man character? That’s up to the buyer. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/29 "2018-03-20T21:26:00Z")
**doorhinge** is your usual disaffected-type who is not paid to play the part of another angry man on a messageboard. His bitterness and frustration over the fact that more people refuse to think like him is obvious in most of his tirade posts. Some people like angry-man humor. I consider **doorhinge** to be a political hack who fulfills his own biased expectations. Neither entertaining, or humorous. Just angry. Yawn. Should people read his posts? People should read as many posts as they can afford time for. Should people read posts based on an angry man character? That’s up to the reader. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/30 "2018-03-20T21:54:41Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If his true views about gay people are as hateful as his rhetoric, then he’d be pissed off by anything that helps gay people and portrays them in a positive light. But I don’t know if Pence is truly hateful, or just says very hateful things about gay people because he thinks it helps him politically. Even if true, Pence is well past the point where that’s a distinction without a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/31 "2018-03-20T22:05:31Z")
**[Moderating]** **Stranger on a Train** , this isn’t the Pit. This is a Warning for personal insults. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/32 "2018-03-20T22:11:46Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > especially the \*\*\*\*\*s, \*\*\*s, \*\*\*\*\*\*s, \*\*\*\*\*s, \*\*\*\*s, and \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*s. The geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, and dickheads? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/33 "2018-03-20T23:21:31Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > I guess 'Mercans just want to laugh these days. We laugh lest we cry. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/34 "2018-03-21T02:22:57Z")
Too bad for **doorhinge** that John Oliver is so popular, as his TV show, that the book manages to outsell the Veep. I understood **doorhinge** was a she, btw…was I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/35 "2018-03-21T03:00:40Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > John Oliver is your usual entertainer-type who is paid to play the part of another angry man on a talkshow. His bitterness and frustration over the fact that more people refuse to think like him, is obvious in most of his tirade videos. So you’re 100% convinced, then, that his bitterness and frustration arises out of the fact more people refuse to think like him, as opposed to the fact that he’s just simply incredulous with disgust at Pence and the many other reprehensible subjects that he casts light on? So this is just recreational outrage for him, and is doing this only because he’s “paid to play the part of another angry man”? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/36 "2018-03-21T11:38:39Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Where is the rabbit in the line of succession? The rabbit is after Jimmy Carter. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/37 "2018-03-21T12:00:22Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > The rabbit is after Jimmy Carter. Ba-boom ching! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/38 "2018-03-21T12:05:28Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > The idea that the Vice President of the United States is going to get his feelings hurt because some kids book outsells his daughter’s kids book is crazy. Yes, it’s not like this administration is one to overreact to even the most trivial slights with a series of progressively more aggressive and incoherent pronouncements and occasional attempts to use the power of the Executive branch to silence their critics ha ha ha HA HA HA **HA HA HA** > [@](#): > > Good on Oliver to find a clever way to sell books and raise money for charity but the credulity of some people is amazing. As the last election demonstrated. > [@BigT](#): > > I considered getting the audio book, which is $2 on Audible, but I’m holding back to see if there’s a version that finishes the animation they show at the end of the video clip. I dunno - I thought Jim Parsons’ narration was stilted and awkward (and I say that as someone who likes TBBT). The bit that concerned me about that segment was Omarosa’s implication that Pence doesn’t just hold Christian beliefs but actively thinks Jesus is telling him what to do (although hopefully not in a “voices in his head” kind of way). As noted already, such people can justify the most horrific behaviors in the belief that it’s what God wants (despite - and this is my new phrase of the week - “Jesus ain’t say that”). I mean, I know next to nothing about Omarosa or what she actually did at the White House but she strongly suggested that Pence is seriously cray-cray on a level previously unsuspected. If there’s any truth to that, we really ought to be worried. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/39 "2018-03-21T13:12:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If his true views about gay people are as hateful as his rhetoric, then he’d be pissed off by anything that helps gay people and portrays them in a positive light. But I don’t know if Pence is truly hateful, or just says very hateful things about gay people because he thinks it helps him politically. Sitting here in Indiana, the feeling around here is that Pence really DOES hate gays (and a few other categories) and any moderation of that view is the political expediency, not the other way around. He’s the sort who will fuck you over and then say with a benevolent smile that it’s for your own good, dear, bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834/40 "2018-03-21T13:37:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Sitting here in Indiana, the feeling around here is that Pence really DOES hate gays (and a few other categories) and any moderation of that view is the political expediency, not the other way around. He’s the sort who will fuck you over and then say with a benevolent smile that it’s for your own good, dear, bless your heart. So…Mike Pence is Dolores Umbridge? Actually, that would explain a lot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-oliver-on-mike-pence-youtube-video/810834.md?page=3)