# John Stamos' Left Ear, you're a fucking idiot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949 "2012-06-03T16:52:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/61 "2012-06-04T20:47:49Z")

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If you say you support the right to abortion politically, yet you don’t support the legal foundation for the right, then you’re going to have to put forth another legal foundation to replace the one you don’t agree with. Because if you take away the legal foundation, the practical result will be that several states will choose to ban abortion, in which case the pro-choice crowd will be justified in concluding that you’re not much of an ally.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/62 "2012-06-04T20:58:22Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> If you say you support the right to abortion politically, yet you don’t support the legal foundation for the right, then you’re going to have to put forth another legal foundation to replace the one you don’t agree with. Because if you take away the legal foundation, the practical result will be that several states will choose to ban abortion, in which case the pro-choice crowd will be justified in concluding that you’re not much of an ally.

The remedy for covering a circumstance not covered in the constitution is to make a law or ammendment which does. A flimsy legal foundation can be eroded and taken away.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/63 "2012-06-04T21:06:33Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> The remedy for covering a circumstance not covered in the constitution is to make a law or ammendment which does. A flimsy legal foundation can be eroded and taken away.

But abortion _is_ covered under the Constitution, at least according to the Supreme Court in _Roe v Wade_.

If your position is that _Roe v Wade_ was a shoddy decision, well…that may be so. But it’s the decision we have, and pro-choicers have to make do with it.

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/64 "2012-06-04T21:08:56Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> ISTM that people are misunderstanding JSLE. He’s not saying that RNATB is being logically inconsistent. He’s just saying that the position being advocated by RNATB is not properly described as “pro-choice”. That’s all.

I understood JSLE completely. I thought his point was pretty obvious. He’s just wrong.

Your interpretation of the Constitution (or any law) shouldn’t depend on what you _want_ it say. If the Constitution just flat out said “States can ban abortion if they want to”, would it still be “not pro-choice” to think Roe v. Wade was a bad decision?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/65 "2012-06-04T21:12:10Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> People who don’t like cursing can find the My Little Ponies forum.

I know that feel, Brony.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/66 "2012-06-04T21:23:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> _shrug_ If he thinks he’s the ultimate arbiter of who is pro-choice and who isn’t, he’s still a fucking idiot.

Very possible. In any event, I think all these semantic disputes are silly.

But I just figured I’d point out that to this disinterested observer you guys seemed to be talking past each other.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/67 "2012-06-04T23:50:55Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Someone should call John Stamos and tell him that we have his left ear in a nutshell.

That’s not his ear in a nutshell…this is his ear in a nutshell: “help, my ear is in a nutshell!”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/68 "2012-06-04T23:51:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> _shrug_ If he thinks he’s the ultimate arbiter of who is pro-choice and who isn’t, he’s still a fucking idiot.

I think its funny that you have grown breasts and become female.

😉

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/69 "2012-06-05T00:29:54Z")

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**Really Not All That Bright** –you were plain, clear, & in the right.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/70 "2012-06-05T00:53:30Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> **Really Not All That Bright** –you were plain, clear, & in the right.

I thought he said he was clearly on the left?

😕

😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/71 "2012-06-05T03:55:12Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I think its funny that you have grown breasts and become female.
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> 😉

I would respond to this post, but I’m busy feeling myself up in front of a mirror.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/72 "2012-06-05T04:05:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I would respond to this post, but I’m busy feeling myself up in front of a mirror.

Share? Regardless of true gender?

**where’s the humping smiley?**

😃

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**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/73 "2012-06-06T23:11:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Seriously, guy. [How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that ends may not always justify means?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=652858&page=3)
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> At this point, I figured my position was clear, and we could move on. _Au contraire_!
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> At this point, I realized I might be dealing with someone whose higher mental functions hadn’t kicked in yet. Ron Paul? What the fuck does he have to do with this? So, I thought- let’s try an analogy!
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> Unfortunately, **JSLE** had never seen an analogy before.
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> Sweet Jesus fuck. Let me spell it out for you, you drooling cretin.
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> I THINK ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL IN NEARLY ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. I DON’T WANT STATES PROHIBITING IT. I just don’t think the Constitution as currently written prevents them from doing so. Seriously, what’s so fucking complicated?

I believe everyone has the Right to Choose to keep their child

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**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/74 "2012-06-07T00:21:50Z")

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> [@dngnb8](#):
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> I believe everyone has the Right to Choose to keep their child

As opposed to people who believe everyone has the Right to Choose to send their child to boarding school?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-stamos-left-ear-youre-a-fucking-idiot/623949/75 "2012-06-07T01:41:08Z")

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> [@dngnb8](#):
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> I believe everyone has the Right to Choose to keep their child

Thank you for your contribution. Its value defies description.

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