# John Walsh/Foley/Gays & Gay Bashing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 4, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272 "2006-10-04T16:38:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/61 "2006-10-09T03:44:09Z")

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By the way, you guys seen this picture yet? Perfectly safe for work, home, garden…

> **[End of Enron](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/10/8/213811/212)**
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> Daily Kos is a progressive news site that fights for democracy by giving our audience information and resources to win elections and impact government. Our coverage is assiduously factual, ethical, and unapologetically liberal. We amplify what we...

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/62 "2006-10-09T03:48:05Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
By the way, you guys seen this picture yet? Perfectly safe for work, home, garden…

[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/8/213811/212](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/8/213811/212)  
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Bush: So, you’re telling me that page had a dick this long? Wow! No wonder you were IMing him. I’m straight and even I can see the appeal of a cock that big.

Foley: So, Mr. President, you’ll go on TV in front of the American public and tell them that?

Bush: I’ll have to check with Dick and Carl to see if that’s okay.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/63 "2006-10-09T04:03:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Age Quod Agis]  
Not true. Here’s [Democratic strategist Bob Beckel](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy_5UNuQN3w)  
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Yet another statement by you that turns out not to be as factual as you have purported. [He’s been a TV commentator](http://www.bobbeckel.com/bio.php), most lately a Fox in house guy, for many years. If he isn’t strategizing for the Democrats, he’s not exactly a Democratic strategist, is he?

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> Bigotry exists on both sides of the aisle.

Spoken like somebody who must also think Colmes is a liberal.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/64 "2006-10-09T04:46:50Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
By the way, you guys seen this picture yet? Perfectly safe for work, home, garden…

[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/8/213811/212](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/8/213811/212)  
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Some people have waaaaaay to much time on their hands. I wonder who was referring to whom in that picture. 😃

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**Author:** ![Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Age_Quod_Agis)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/65 "2006-10-09T14:12:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Apos]  
Can you just quit the ruse and admit that not EVERY bad thing is equal on “both sides of aisle” (except of course for all the things you think are just Democrat problems)?  
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I never said that it’s equal on both sides of the aisle. If you read **rjung** ’s quote, you’d see that he said NO Democrats were using the “gay=pedophile” red herring. I pointed out that this wasn’t true.

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**Author:** ![Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@Age\_Quod\_Agis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Age_Quod_Agis)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/66 "2006-10-09T14:19:03Z")

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[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
Yet another statement by you that turns out not to be as factual as you have purported. [He’s been a TV commentator](http://www.bobbeckel.com/bio.php), most lately a Fox in house guy, for many years. If he isn’t strategizing for the Democrats, he’s not exactly a Democratic strategist, is he?  
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Do you even bother to read the things you link? Let me help you out:

> [@Bob Beckel's website](#):
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> After a political baptism as a college student in Robert Kennedy’s 1968 campaign, a tour of duty in the Peace Corps and a successful stint heading up his own consulting firm, Bob joined the government in 1977. As the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Carter Administration, he steered the controversial Panama Canal Treaties through Congress. He moved to the White House to head the Administration’s effort to press Congress into passing the Mid East and SALT II Treaties.
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> He resumed his career as a political consultant until Walter Mondale asked him to manage his 1984 campaign for presidency. As National Campaign manager, he oversaw the successful race for the Democratic nomination. He is credited with pulling together the campaign after its defeat in New Hampshire and became known as the man who wrapped “Where’s the Beef?” around Gary Hart so effectively.
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> For the past twelve years, Beckel has had an active consulting practice advising his clients on communication strategy, consensus building and public policy. He is one of Washington’s most prolific speakers.

RFK, Carter, and _National Campaign Manager_ for Walter Mondale. And he currently works as a _political consultant_.

Before you throw out the fact that, as a political consultant, he could work for Republican causes, too, let’s take a look at what he has to say about the Republicans:

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> For the 32 years in politics and public policy Beckel has had a continuing running battle with the Right. …  
> “I’m not bitter. The hatred I engender on the Right is my proudest achievement”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/67 "2006-10-09T23:23:38Z")

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As I said, he’s a Fox commentator. You can pretty much stop there. He’s their tame, bought-off “Democrat” in the same way that Colmes is a liberal. See it now?

Or, if you insist, perhaps we \*should \* listen to Mondale’s campaign manager tell us what the Democrats need to do to win, hmm? 😃

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/68 "2006-10-10T09:53:41Z")

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What is the age of consent in D.C., anyway? I’ve not seen that anywhere in this thread, but it might help with the discussion if we knew that. Anyone know?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/69 "2006-10-10T10:14:10Z")

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The age of consent is 16 in Washington. It is mentioned in the Washington Post article, but needs registration. [Link](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/10/06/BL2006100600309_pf.html).

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-walsh-foley-gays-gay-bashing/375272/70 "2006-10-10T12:29:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Northern Piper]  
What is the age of consent in D.C., anyway? I’ve not seen that anywhere in this thread, but it might help with the discussion if we knew that. Anyone know?  
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May I refer you back to post #21 of this thread.

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