# John?, Who's John?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 30, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821 "2006-08-30T19:35:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/1 "2006-08-30T19:35:42Z")

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Here’s a list from the National Hurricane Center, with the names of possible hurricanes in 2006.  
We are dealing with ERNESTO right now, and I am reading that JOHN is now hitting Mexico.  
What happened to F, G, H and I?  
Why isn’t JOHN even listed?

2006  
Alberto  
Beryl  
Chris  
Debby  
Ernesto  
Florence  
Gordon  
Helene  
Isaac  
Joyce  
Kirk  
Leslie  
Michael  
Nadine  
Oscar  
Patty  
Rafael  
Sandy  
Tony  
Valerie  
William  
[http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml](http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml)

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**Author:** ![IntelInside](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a5b964/32.png) [@IntelInside](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IntelInside)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/2 "2006-08-30T19:39:04Z")

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The Pacific has a different list.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/3 "2006-08-30T19:40:03Z")

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Those are the Atlantic names. John is in the Pacific. Here are the names for the Pacific.

Aletta  
Bud  
Carlotta  
Daniel  
Emilia  
Fabio  
Gilma  
Hector  
Ileana  
John  
Kristy  
Lane  
Miriam  
Norman  
Olivia  
Paul  
Rosa  
Sergio  
Tara  
Vicente  
Willa  
Xavier  
Yolanda  
Zeke

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**Author:** ![IntelInside](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a5b964/32.png) [@IntelInside](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IntelInside)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/4 "2006-08-30T19:40:43Z")

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[cite.](http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/current-names.htm)

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**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/5 "2006-08-30T19:44:39Z")

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Correctomundo, guys. My mistake. :smack:

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**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/6 "2006-08-30T21:53:10Z")

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So if John crosses Mexico and ends up in the Gulf, will he have a sex-change operation and become Joyce?! 😃

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/7 "2006-08-30T21:58:18Z")

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Do storms every cross Mexico or Central America?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/8 "2006-08-30T22:05:05Z")

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> [@gazpacho](#):
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> Do storms every cross Mexico or Central America?

I think it happened last year. I’ll try to find a cite.

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**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/9 "2006-08-30T22:13:47Z")

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> [@Lamar Mundane](#):
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> I think it happened last year. I’ll try to find a cite.

I was just joking about the sex change, but they do cross (both ways) AND change names when they do:

Occasionally, an Atlantic tropical storm crosses Mexico or Central America and enters the eastern Pacific. Most lose their hurricane punch crossing the landmass and peter out in the Pacific. However, a few weakened storms re-energize over the Pacific and again reach tropical storm or hurricane status. If they do, they are assigned the next name on the list of Eastern Pacific storms. Rarely does a storm go the opposite way, but there have been instances where this has occurred. The last to do so was Hurricane Cosme which left the Eastern Pacific to become Atlantic Tropical Storm Allison in 1989. Interestingly, one 1961 hurricane immigrated from the Atlantic, regained hurricane status on the Pacific side, then decided to return to the Atlantic. The story of “the hurricane with three names” can be found elsewhere on this site.

From “The Weather Almanac.”

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/10 "2006-08-30T22:14:35Z")

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Pacific hurricane Adrian (2005) almost made it into the gulf, but not quite.

Storms that have crossed from the Atlantic to the Pacific or the Pacific to the Atlantic, best records since the mid-1960s:  
Atlantic Hurricane Cesar (July 1996) became Northeast Pacific Hurricane Douglas.  
Atlantic Tropical Storm Bret (August 1993) became Hurricane Greg in the Northeast Pacific.  
Northeast Pacific Hurricane Cosme became Atlantic Tropical Storm Allison (June 1989).  
Atlantic Hurricane Joan (October 1988) became Northeast Pacific Hurricane Miriam.  
Atlantic Hurricane Greta (September 1978) became Northeast Pacific Hurricane Olivia.  
Atlantic Hurricane Fifi (September 1974) became Northeast Pacific Tropical Storm Orlene.  
Atlantic Hurricane Irene (September 1971) became Northeast Pacific Tropical Storm Olivia.  
Atlantic Hurricane Hattie (October-November 1961) became Northeast Pacific Tropical Storm Simone.  
A Northeast Pacific Tropical Storm (September-October 1949) became an Atlantic Hurricane (Storm #10) and made landfall in TX.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/11 "2006-08-30T23:40:39Z")

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kristy is hanging out a bit further west than john. john is packing quite a punch and is doing some sightseeing in rather ritzy areas of mexico.

there is a typhoon near asia, and of course ernesto on the east coast. a rather busy week or 2 for storm chasers.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/12 "2006-08-31T02:05:49Z")

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> [@gazpacho](#):
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> Here are the names for the Pacific.  
> …  
> Gilma  
> Hector  
> Ileana  
> John  
> …

That’s just for the Eastern Pacific.

[Central Pacific cyclones use a different set](http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:rvxxokF68QgJ:www.nws.noaa.gov/om/brochures/pac-hur.pdf+typhoons+names+2006+ioke&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&client=firefox)  
**Currently:**  
Alika  
Ele  
Huko  
Ioke  
Kika  
Lana  
Maka  
Neki  
Oleka  
Peni  
Ulia  
Wal

Ioke is the storm that’s [forced evacuation of Wake Island this week](http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2069125.php)

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> NOAA reports that [maximum sustained winds are now 160mph](http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27268057.shtml) and Ioke is expected to maintain that strength for the next 12 hours. Gusts of up to 189 miles per hour are also expected

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/13 "2006-08-31T17:18:42Z")

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I need to show these lists to seven year-old Kizarvexilla. Her real name is Katrina, and she still gets mad at the weather bureau for having associated her lovely and somewhat unusual name with the greatest natural disaster in American history. The phrase “Katrina victims” sends her into fits of wrath and despair. Apparently, some of the kids in her class also tease her now. Maybe some of their names will be on the new hurricane lists??

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/14 "2006-08-31T19:30:41Z")

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I am waiting for someone at the hurricane center to slip Mulva in as a name.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-whos-john/370821/15 "2006-09-01T20:07:06Z")

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John had nowhere near the devastion that was hyped in the media. In fact I don’t think it caused much harm at all. Baja may still get hit but the storm is down to a category 2.

I was hoping for a huge swell for surfing and John couldn’t even accomplish that. Some very light wind and a few centimeters of rain was all we got in southern JAlisco.
