# John Wick Chapter 2; Keanu Reeves shoes vs. the world's asses \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673 "2017-02-12T19:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/1 "2017-02-12T19:35:51Z")
John Wick was a cheesy, fun, turn-your-brain-off action movie with impressive fight choreography and world building. John Wick Chapter 2 is basically the same movie, and I quite enjoyed it for what it was. If you liked John Wick, you’ll like Chapter 2. If you didn’t, don’t waste your time because it’s the same movie with a new plot and set pieces. Now entering spoiler-country: I liked how they further fleshed out the larger world hinted at in the first film. Although many of the public fight scenes strained credulity quite a lot. Law enforcement doesn’t seem to (functionally) exist in this world, and damn near everyone seems to be a super secret assassin. Still, if you think about it like a non-shitty version of _Wanted_, it goes down easier. They’re all basically in the Fraternity and law enforcement can’t touch them. There, now I can go back to enjoying Keanu Reeves murdering tons of mooks. Seriously, this movie is begging for a game adaptation. I’m imagining third-person, Arkham Asylum-like, highly-refined combat mechanics, and little else. Wick is constantly parrying, deflecting, and incapacitating an attacker while using their gun to kill another attacker before finishing off the first attacker with their own gun. Base it on his jobs prior to the first movie and eventually tackle the big final mission before his initial retirement. Spend 90% of the development smoothing out the gameplay and you’ve got a new franchise on your hands. (Looks like someone already made an FPS, and predictably, [they fucked it up](http://www.pcgamer.com/the-john-wick-vr-game-sadly-feels-nothing-like-the-movies/)). Anyway, I liked how they raised the stakes for this one by pitting Wick against a ton of actual assassins. It’s clearly being set up for a sequel, where Wick is apparently now kill-on-sight for the assassin community, and no longer has access to the considerable resources of The Continental. Count me interested. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/2 "2017-02-12T20:59:38Z")
Does he still have the dog he picked up at the end of the first movie? I skipped reading the spoiler stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/3 "2017-02-12T22:17:01Z")
So your game is basically metal gear solid without all the sneaking? ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/4 "2017-02-12T22:52:31Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Does he still have the dog he picked up at the end of the first movie? I skipped reading the spoiler stuff. Yes. Yes he does. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/5 "2017-02-12T22:54:03Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > So your game is basically metal gear solid without all the sneaking? I was thinking more of Arkham Asylum with guns and without the sneaking. I only ever played the first MGS and part of the second, but I don’t recall the combat looking anything like John Wick. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/6 "2017-02-13T01:36:35Z")
Oh yeah, I wanted to add that I loved Peter Serafinowicz as the Sommelier. He’s always fun whenever he turns up. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/7 "2017-02-13T19:11:21Z")
Saw it this weekend. The universe was kind enough to put the first John Wick movie on SyFy earlier in the day, so we got the full experience. It was nice and violent, just like we hoped. I do hope he gets his car back in the next movie. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/8 "2017-02-17T01:43:31Z")
That was a fun time. The dog was enjoyable. He is a cutie. I do hope John has an undisclosed location so he can heal up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/9 "2017-02-17T03:00:32Z")
Is the premise fallout from the first movie, or has he gotten into a different set of trouble? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/10 "2017-02-17T03:04:00Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Is the premise fallout from the first movie, or has he gotten into a different set of trouble? Different set. An old associate comes and calls in a favor. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/11 "2017-02-17T03:34:42Z")
Ah, good to hear. Slaving sequels to the first story is one of my pet peeves. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/12 "2017-02-17T22:08:40Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > John Wick was a cheesy, fun, turn-your-brain-off action movie with impressive fight choreography and world building. John Wick Chapter 2 is basically the same movie, and I quite enjoyed it for what it was. > > If you liked John Wick, you’ll like Chapter 2. If you didn’t, don’t waste your time because it’s the same movie with a new plot and set pieces. I’m genuinely grateful to the OP, since I noticed all the good reviews for this sequel but also remember the first one being [a monumental piece of shit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17856153&postcount=2). I was almost tempted to see if maybe this one took a different, more creative approach that the first one didn’t, but I’m guessing it’s more of the same. Bullet dodged. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/13 "2017-03-08T03:21:56Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Oh yeah, I wanted to add that I loved Peter Serafinowicz as the Sommelier. He’s always fun whenever he turns up. That was actually one of the scenes I didn’t really care for. Way too much pretentious melodrama. Pretty much the whole getting outfitted sequence was a badly written enough it could almost have been intended as parody. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/14 "2017-03-08T04:13:25Z")
I saw this movie a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed it, even if it’s completely over the top. As someone mentioned, there appeared to be no police anywhere. And the crime underground was so widespread it was above ground. I particularly liked how one of those gold coins was acceptable payment for a bespoke bulletproof suit or a couple of drinks at the bar. ---
**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/15 "2017-03-08T04:27:46Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > incapacitating an attacker while using their gun to kill another attacker before finishing off the first attacker with their own gun. Yeah, cool the first time. A tiresome cliché by the thirteenth time. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/16 "2017-03-08T14:03:49Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > That was actually one of the scenes I didn’t really care for. Way too much pretentious melodrama. Pretty much the whole getting outfitted sequence was a badly written enough it could almost have been intended as parody. Sure, but both movies are - in essence - gun fights punctuated by pretentious melodrama. I think that Mr. Serafinowicz was a good fit for that part. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/john-wick-chapter-2-keanu-reeves-shoes-vs-the-worlds-asses-spoilers/779673/17 "2017-03-08T15:21:04Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Oh yeah, I wanted to add that I loved Peter Serafinowicz as the Sommelier. He’s always fun whenever he turns up. About halfway through the first scene with the Sommelier, I leaned over to my wife and whispered, “I want a movie about _him_.”