# JohnClay, if I might have a word... (not about dieting, I promise) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 16, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403 "2016-04-16T21:14:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/81 "2016-04-21T09:28:59Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > Just want to go on record that I disagree with this and if JohnClay really believes this I bet he will be suicidal when his wife cheats or leaves him. “when”? Well she’s told me she’ll never cheat on me - unless she gets drunk, then she might (but she has given up drinking) - well one time she did kiss a guy when she was drunk at a camp. On the other hand she’s never had a one night stand. And even if she did I don’t think I’d mind. I’d like to be present if she cheated like I’ve seen a guy do with their wife in a movie (she’s got a higher sex drive than me after all). She’s told me a lot that she’s “in” love with me, that I have the best p\*\*\*\* in the world, etc. I did break up with her for a while when we were dating based on the advice of this messageboard. Then she wouldn’t take me back… but my dad and my sort of friend apparently asked her to give me another chance and she did. I wasn’t depressed though I just really really missed her. I think knowing that I did have a lover for a while would help prevent a return to depression. My wife sometimes seems to think I might cheat on her so I guess I would have a chance of finding someone else. Perhaps through the social groups that exist for people with mental illnesses. I’m not sure if they would be happy with my very poor sexual performance though. I’m very lucky in that way that the first girl who held my hand is very happy with me. I’ve even told her my worst secrets which are really bad. Almost every single one of her boyfriends have been very abusive though and she says I’m her best boyfriend. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/82 "2016-04-23T04:40:16Z")
wolfpup: Hello? Anybody home? I guess you’d rather whine about people not liking your suggestions for Nazi groups than defend yourself in this thread. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19278410&postcount=143](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19278410&postcount=143) ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/83 "2016-04-23T05:27:44Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > wolfpup: > I see yet again you are ignoring posts that are a challenge for you while focusing on things that you can handle. > > Even though Stringbean accepts that you are correct about the jumping altitude you thought that we all wanted to read you spend another two paragraphs explaining why their old error is indeed wrong. > > Then you ended with two nitpicks. > Ok out of those 2 choices - back up your earlier statement or insult them, which did you choose? > > “Insulting your intelligence has all the challenge of kicking a sick puppy, but OK.” > > So you took the less challenging option. > Honestly? You don’t seem to care much about the meanings of words sometimes. Perhaps it is an attempt at mean-spirited humour. This just does not read like a **JC** post. It’s…it’s coherent. Where did this **JC** come from? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/84 "2016-04-23T14:23:36Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > This just does not read like a **JC** post. It’s…it’s coherent. Where did this **JC** come from? :eek: I agree. Hey, John, why was this post a different style? ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/85 "2016-04-23T15:43:39Z")
I’d honestly just prefer another lesson in high-altitude pressure dynamics. I must have been absent the day we covered it in third grade since this is all common knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/86 "2016-04-24T00:57:08Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I agree. Hey, John, why was this post a different style? I guess I wanted to sound like a smarty pants since some people doubted I was considered the smartest in my high school year level. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/87 "2016-04-24T03:10:25Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I guess I wanted to sound like a smarty pants since some people doubted I was considered the smartest in my high school year level. So you admit that, as suspected, you’ve just been trolling all along? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/88 "2016-04-24T04:19:52Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > So you admit that, as suspected, you’ve just been trolling all along? I thought trolling involves trying to upset people but I want people to like me. Though perhaps I’ve annoyed wolfpup too much. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/89 "2016-04-24T04:30:24Z")
Well I like it when people like me but if I can’t have that I’d like to win arguments. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/90 "2016-04-24T04:43:13Z")
Nm ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/91 "2016-04-24T06:25:02Z")
Nm ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/92 "2016-04-24T07:34:14Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Well I like it when people like me but if I can’t have that I’d like to win arguments. How do you define “winning an argument”? If you mean “reflexively rejecting and/or ignoring the mountain of refuting evidence given and simply insisting you’re right”, then you are a master debater. \*masterdebater. Ha! ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/93 "2016-04-24T08:37:56Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > How do you define “winning an argument”? If you mean “reflexively rejecting and/or ignoring the mountain of refuting evidence given and simply insisting you’re right”, then you are a master debater. > > \*masterdebater. Ha! Being a “master debater” implies a certain level of post quality which may be difficult to achieve. Instead it could be easier to focus on quantity and so be a “mass debater”. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/94 "2016-04-24T10:14:51Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Being a “master debater” implies a certain level of post quality which may be difficult to achieve. Instead it could be easier to focus on quantity and so be a “mass debater”. 🆒 I’ve always thought of you as a “master baiter,” to put it in fishing terms. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/95 "2016-04-24T10:21:33Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’ve always thought of you as a “master baiter,” to put it in fishing terms. touché ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/96 "2016-04-24T20:53:30Z")
I’ve just thought of you as a massive wanker, for the record. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/97 "2016-04-24T22:07:40Z")
**JC** is an excellent troll. Of course, only a loser would put that much effort into trolling, but I suppose we should take note of excellence however it manifests. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/98 "2016-04-25T05:53:15Z")
> [@Subterraneanus](#): > > **JC** is an excellent troll. Of course, only a loser would put that much effort into trolling, but I suppose we should take note of excellence however it manifests. Not that I disagree, of course, but I think a philosophical distinction is in order. An apt analogy here would be if a falling brick hits you on the head and you observe that this was “an excellent way to make my head hurt”. The fact is indisputable, but it would be a mistake to attribute any sort of intent to the brick. It’s just a brick, and accusing it of calculated malice is unfair both to the brick and to actual sentient villains creatively plotting malicious acts. This is a pertinent point because we do have intentional and sometimes even creative trolls appear on this board so it’s a useful distinction. The most notable was a long-standing one who is now known here only as He Whose Name May Not Be Spoken because, sadly, he is no longer around to defend himself – truly an accomplished troll whose deliberate inanities tried to draw people out to the point of losing their tempers and breaking the rules. One cannot equate this kind of evil intent with a simple and blameless brick. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/99 "2016-04-25T07:06:18Z")
wolfpup: See post 78… ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403/100 "2016-04-25T07:48:10Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > This is a pertinent point because we do have intentional and sometimes even creative trolls appear on this board so it’s a useful distinction. The most notable was a long-standing one who is now known here only as **He Whose Name May Not Be Spoken** because, sadly, he is no longer around to defend himself – truly an accomplished troll whose deliberate inanities tried to draw people out to the point of losing their tempers and breaking the rules. One cannot equate this kind of evil intent with a simple and blameless brick. Well, crap. Voldemort posted here? I missed it? And if you could just drop me a line about whom you’re really talking, it would be much appreciated. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-if-i-might-have-a-word-not-about-dieting-i-promise/752403.md?page=6)