# JohnClay is a sinner! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 9, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051 "2015-06-09T08:25:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/81 "2015-06-12T08:14:14Z")
In Australian dollars: The actual collectable item: May 23 - $21.13 x 4 = $84.52 May 24 - $21.77 x 15 = $326.55 May 29 - $19.59 x 2 = $39.18 May 30 - $19.60 x 2 = $39.20 Jun 4 - $25.85 x 2 = $51.70 Jun 7 - $18.13 x 11 = $199.43 = $740.58 for 36 = $20.57 each. (US$15.87) Full orders: May 23 - EUR 36.77 = $53.51 May 24 - US $21.20 = $27.49 May 24 - US $427.02 = $553.65 May 30 - US $67.36 = $87.34 Jun 4 - US $78.65 = $101.97 Jun 7 - EUR 153.82 = $223.86 Total: $1047.82 includes postage, insurance and other items… = $29.11 each if I ignored the postage and costs for related collectables (US$22.45) It is a bit worrying that I had to borrow AU$1700 to help my bank balance even though I only spent $1050 on it… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/82 "2015-06-12T08:16:18Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > E is not just Double D, it’s triple D. Congratulations, as it obviously means a lot to you. I don’t really care about size - the main thing is how perky they are - my wife’s are sort of ok. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/83 "2015-06-12T10:38:04Z")
**John Clay** , previous mod instructions have asked you to stop describing your wife and your sex life, so let’s end this hijack. Everyone: Don’t encourage this line of conversation. > [@JohnClay](#): > > I don’t really care about size - the main thing is how perky they are - my wife’s are sort of ok. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/84 "2015-06-12T11:21:39Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > In Australian dollars: > > … > > Total: > $1047.82 includes postage, insurance and other items… > = $29.11 each if I ignored the postage and costs for related collectables (US$22.45) You’re buying them at auction in the hopes that you can sell them at auction for more than other people are selling them for? Is that it? How many have you sold? > [@](#): > > It is a bit worrying that I had to borrow AU$1700 to help my bank balance even though I only spent $1050 on it… That’s beyond worrying. That indicates your business model has something seriously wrong with it. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/85 "2015-06-12T11:29:22Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > That’s beyond worrying. That indicates your business model has something seriously wrong with it. He’s losing money on each sale, but he plans to make it up on volume. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/86 "2015-06-12T21:14:30Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > It is a bit worrying that I had to borrow AU$1700 to help my bank balance even though I only spent $1050 on it… So what happened to the other $650? Remember you said you could make up the shortfall if your investment heads south. Also, do the Capital Venturers that are the ones taking the financial risk get anything besides _their_ “investment” back if you turn a profit? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/87 "2015-06-13T00:18:03Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > You’re buying them at auction in the hopes that you can sell them at auction for more than other people are selling them for? Is that it? I didn’t buy them at auction and at moment I’ve only got one auction on eBay. Three more are “buy it now or best offer”. > [@](#): > > How many have you sold? None. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/88 "2015-06-13T00:29:00Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > So what happened to the other $650? Maybe I’ve been repaying another loan to my wife (for her car) a bit too fast. I also buy her food, clothes and petrol while she saves a lot of her money. Well she says the savings are for the both of us. > [@](#): > > Remember you said you could make up the shortfall if your investment heads south. Also, do the Capital Venturers that are the ones taking the financial risk get anything besides _their_ “investment” back if you turn a profit? The thing is with investments as opposed to loans is that often in investments they can lose some money… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/89 "2015-06-13T00:47:29Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > …Also, do the Capital Venturers that are the ones taking the financial risk get anything besides _their_ “investment” back if you turn a profit? I’m the one taking the financial risk. They will get their money back even if I make $0 in sales. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/90 "2015-06-13T01:14:11Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > Maybe I’ve been repaying another loan to my wife (for her car) a bit too fast. I also buy her food, clothes and petrol while she saves a lot of her money. Well she says the savings are for the both of us. She has $50,000 in saving while you “stole/borrowed” $1000 from her YET you pay all her bills YET you took a loan from your wife for her car? Is that close to the gist of it? And just curious are you two actually married or is it more “wife”? And are you two in a community property state? I feel I’m late to the JohnClay party so any dopers that know the answers feel free to answer. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/91 "2015-06-13T01:54:15Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > She has $50,000 in saving while you “stole/borrowed” $1000 from That was the amount I told her about. I later “borrowed” another $200 from that car account. Though now I have paid the latest $75 repayment from her flatmates into that account. > [@](#): > > her YET you pay all her bills We still split many of the bills like electricity, rent and groceries. (by “food” I meant take-away) BTW recently I paid her a $60 bribe because there were some second-hand chairs that I didn’t want her to get. > [@](#): > > YET you took a loan from your wife for her car? I really wanted her to buy a particular car so I said I’d pay $2000 for it (and $2500 came from her flatmates getting her old car). I also paid for half of the many car expenses. I still owe her $524 for that. > [@](#): > > Is that close to the gist of it? And just curious are you two actually married or is it more “wife”? And are you two in a community property state? I live in Australia… I’m not sure what you mean. > [@](#): > > I feel I’m late to the JohnClay party so any dopers that know the answers feel free to answer. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/92 "2015-06-13T04:48:15Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > So what happened to the other $650? The bellhop has it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/93 "2015-06-13T04:51:02Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > The bellhop has it. Which definition do you mean? > **[Urban Dictionary: bellhop](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bellhop)** > > A person who is attracted to people with emotional baggage. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/94 "2015-06-13T04:59:39Z")
kayaker: e.g. 1.) A worker at a hotel who takes your bags up to your room for you. 2.) A hotel worker who presses the buttons on an elevator so you can get to your room. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/95 "2015-06-13T05:17:47Z")
Goddammit. Three guests check into a hotel room. The clerk says the bill is $30, so each guest pays $10. Later the clerk realizes the bill should only be $25. To rectify this, he gives the bellhop $5 to return to the guests. On the way to the room, the bellhop realizes that he cannot divide the money equally. As the guests didn’t know the total of the revised bill, the bellhop decides to just give each guest $1 and keep $2 as a tip for himself. Each guest got $1 back: so now each guest only paid $9; bringing the total paid to $27. The bellhop has $2. And $27 + $2 = $29 so, if the guests originally handed over $30, what happened to the remaining $1? **John Clay** , tell this riddle to your wife. Get her all puzzled about that dollar. Then explain that the money you took from her is just like the money in the riddle, and everything is hunky dory, she just thinks you owe her some dollars. But it comes out in the math. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/96 "2015-06-13T05:43:43Z")
I think my wife would want to be able to understand the math rather than just trust me about it. BTW I’ve got a reputation for being really good at math (well up to first or second year university level) I think I’ve got it figured out… they paid $27 in total ($9 each) but their bill was $25. The bellhop has $2 of theirs that is owed for the bill. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/97 "2015-06-13T05:57:59Z")
I mean the belltop has $2 of theirs that isn’t for the bill. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/98 "2015-06-13T10:06:00Z")
I still like the idea of using math to pull one over on her. Kinda like blinding her with science.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/99 "2015-06-13T10:51:33Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I still like the idea of using math to pull one over on her. Kinda like blinding her with science.😃 There’s always the shell game: honey, let’s play “guess which cup your bank balance is under”. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051/100 "2015-06-13T11:13:16Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I’m the one taking the financial risk. With your wife’s money. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/johnclay-is-a-sinner/722051.md?page=6)